TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Forsett had about 600+ yards when he was injured. Enter Allen who had 500+ yards to finish the year. Once again Ravens have a 1,000 yard rusher. Ravens lose Byner and get Jamal, Ravenslose Jamal and get Rice. Ravens lose Rice and get Forsett. Ravens lose Forsett and bringup Allen. That's called great continuity and stability at the RB but even with another 1100 yard rusherTrestman passed like crazy and set new team records for passing attempts and completions. I wouldn't mind Ron Staley at LT from the draft. Just think of all those holes on the left sidewith him and Jensen blocking. Ray Berry said Unitas was getting killed from the left side so they drafted Jim Parker and hesaid we never heard from that side again. Parker is HOFer. Same could be true of Staley, 2d best LT in draft but only if KO is gone. http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/ravens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Oh come on. That does not make a 1000 yd rusher. Many teams can have a 2000 yd rusher if you add up all the rushers for the season. 2015 is the 2nd least yds rushed in many yrs. The last yr Rice was here was lower and those stats show why the ravens didn't win this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Message to the troll. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Here's the top rushers for 2015. Top 2 guys had 1400 yards each or a little moreGurley was next with 1100 The Ravens RB position is next with 1100 between two RBs, after the starterwent down who gained 1100 yds last year. The position still got 1100 fromthe starter and backup when promoted to starter. The next two teams Dallas And Jets had 1,000 yards. Im just saying we had an 1100 yard rusher even after losing our starter and forget stats.Ravens had a bad season because of all the injuries to starters. http://www.nfl.com/stats/player?seasonId=2015&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I agree with papa, not impressed. After 2014 with Kubiak, it's hard to find any positives in the run game. Last year was a regression to 2013. I do like our talent with Allen and West. Need to get back to 2014 level of play so the play action is more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 What play action? I forgot to mention West who had about 200 yards. The Ravens areimpressed by him and when Forsett retires, Allen and West will be thetwo work horses along with Talley who were was injured too. I'm just saying any time you get over 1,000 yards after your star goes downis pretty impressive. Look at all the teams that didn't. Of course, Ravenshave a good line and are great at run blocking especially on the right sidewith Yanda and Wagner but that's part of it - part of the continuity after yourstar RB goes down. Everyone pulls their weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 It was the system. Forsett was nothing on team after team. That WCO is a plug and play system. Notice the OC who got him going leaves and Justin falls off the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just saw this story on Allen. He made most of his rookie season. He had another350 yards receiving and 2 TDs. He was 3rd receiver on the team behind Aikenand SR. Some think he was drafted more for his receiving than running but hestepped up big with over 800 yards in 6 games starting. Not bad. That's all I'm saying. Throw in WEst's 200 yards and the position had 1300 yards, more than Gurley's1100 yards who was top RB in last year's draft. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Buck-Allen-Made-The-Best-Of-His-Rookie-Opportunities/df20ffaa-08fd-4b64-bb53-01ba95f5db2a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 I agree with papa, not impressed. After 2014 with Kubiak, it's hard to find any positives in the run game. Last year was a regression to 2013. I do like our talent with Allen and West. Need to get back to 2014 level of play so the play action is more effective.Trestman just missed a team record for most passing attempts ever by the Ravens and stillhad over 1300 yards rushing and 350 yds receiving from their RB after their star RB went down. So to recap: The league's top 2 RBs had over 1400 yards rushing each. Ravens RB by committee was next best with 1300 yards: 600 - Forsett500 - Allen200 - West Dallas and Jets were next best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The Ravens usually have over 1800 yd on the ground. That is when they win games. They ride a running game to the win. When they throw they lose. Look at Joe's w/l record on attempts of under 30 and over 30 a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The Ravens usually have over 1800 yd on the ground. That is when they win games. They ride a running game to the win. When they throw they lose. Look at Joe's w/l record on attempts of under 30 and over 30 a game. That can be said for any qb, Tom Brady is 16-23 when throwing over 30 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 You show me that stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Trestman just missed a team record for most passing attempts ever by the Ravens and stillhad over 1300 yards rushing and 350 yds receiving from their RB after their star RB went down. So to recap: The league's top 2 RBs had over 1400 yards rushing each. Ravens RB by committee was next best with 1300 yards: 600 - Forsett500 - Allen200 - West Dallas and Jets were next best.You can try to spin the numbers all you want but the Ravens were 26th in team rushing and had only 8 rushing TDs. Yes the Ravens were eighth in passing yardage, but we only had 21 passing TDs. Overall, Ravens were 25th in the league in scoring offense. These are the statistics that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 You show me that stat.They were talking about it this morning on Mike n Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Like I said shwo that to me. I am not relying on hearsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Message to the troll. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You're the one trolling in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Bull shit!! ILMAO - Someone doesn't even know what trolling is. I'm the one building a Raven up for having a great rookie season and bailing the team out after starting off 3rd on the depth chart. I posted a stat and a story about it that promotes him. I'm not the one acting like a grouchy old man. Im not the one who posts a huge pic of our QB on every post and calls him a pick machine.That wouldnt last 5 seconds on the other Ravens boards. So I ignore him. Is there an ignorebutton on here? I'm also not saying the offense was ranked top 10 or 5. All I am saying is we had a 1,000 yard rusher after our star went down for the year in the 2dhalf of the season and the rookie stepped up. Two rookies stepped up with 700 yards betweenthem plus another 350 yards receiving by Allen giving the Ravens the 3rd best RB. See stat above. Trolling is knocking the Ravens down on every post. I'm trying to build them up as a realRavens fan. Again, I never said we had the top offense, just a thousand yard rusher after Forsett went downlate in year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 You are spinning like the White House Press Secretary. I don't knock on the Ravens on every post. Only when it is deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Sorry, my mistake..no content here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Kiper said Allen could be the future #1 back for Ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Bull shit!! ILMAO - Someone doesn't even know what trolling is. I'm the one building a Raven up for having a great rookie season and bailing the team out after starting off 3rd on the depth chart. I posted a stat and a story about it that promotes him. I'm not the one acting like a grouchy old man. Im not the one who posts a huge pic of our QB on every post and calls him a pick machine.That wouldnt last 5 seconds on the other Ravens boards. So I ignore him. Is there an ignorebutton on here? I'm also not saying the offense was ranked top 10 or 5. All I am saying is we had a 1,000 yard rusher after our star went down for the year in the 2dhalf of the season and the rookie stepped up. Two rookies stepped up with 700 yards betweenthem plus another 350 yards receiving by Allen giving the Ravens the 3rd best RB. See stat above. Trolling is knocking the Ravens down on every post. I'm trying to build them up as a realRavens fan. Again, I never said we had the top offense, just a thousand yard rusher after Forsett went downlate in year.I don't read every thread here, but this is either an obvious troll job out something sadly doesn't know the meaning of "1000 yard rusher". I'm not sure which is the better reason. I disagree with Papa a lot but I think he believes what he posts and has a logic behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 I agree with that and I used to like him til he posted that pic on every post but the pointis again they got 1,000 yds out of the position despite the star RB going down. That wasmy point and the story how he contributed as a rookie. Kiper just said Allen could be the #1 back when Forsett leaves. Ive played the game at a higher level than most posters here and have followed footballlonger and sure know the meaning of a 1,000 yd rusher. Matte became the instant qBin 65 when Unitas and his back up went down. We all knew he was no QB even though heled the team to victory after victory til the last game and a blown FG call by the refs keptus from winning the championship. Again, No other Ravens board will allow his pic blasting Joe. He's putting our QB down. I got called a trollon Tony's board for criticizing Joe on the NE pick last year while everyone elseblamed Torry for not taking the ball out of the defender's hands after catching it. I call it like I see it but I never posted pics like Smurf blasting our players. I asked themods to take it down but they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I don't read every thread here, but this is either an obvious troll job out something sadly doesn't know the meaning of "1000 yard rusher". I'm not sure which is the better reason. I disagree with Papa a lot but I think he believes what he posts and has a logic behind it.Thank you. A 1000 yd rusher is not even that special. That is 62.5 yds per game. When you had 12 and 14 games in a season that was a special thing. Now I think 1300 yds is what 1000 used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Ravens RB by committee had 1300 yds this year. 600 yds - Forsett500 yds - Allen - plus another 350 yds receiving200 yds - West Reference: nfl.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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