tsylvester

Because he is slow to respond to identify plays, weak in the upper & lower body, he has no "bend" to turn the corner, and only made a name for him self against weaker opponents. A lot of players over the years are rated high, but turn out to not even make it in the NFL, let alone be a contributor on the team. I could be wrong, but I have not seen anything from him, and I watch a ton of college games, to warrant a first round pick, not high in the round, and certainly not at 26. I think there are a number of players with just as much talent and potential as he has who could be had later in the draft.

Oh my apologies if once again I said something that would cause you to not understand, I am not sensitive, did not think you were "attacking me", I just asked a simple question, answered another of your questions in a way that I had hoped, you would understand; again, sorry for the 'confusion".

The way I look at the team, they need quality more than quantity this year more than most any other year. Defense is, the line, is filled with young, talented players, with an old timer in there for good measure in Canty. Offense, the line is set with good, quality players, mixed with youth and is deep. Corner, WR, middle line backer, tight end, running back, and maybe safety are glarglaringds, though corner may be healed with what they have done and players coming back. Parker is solid, an NFl ready receiver in my opinion, but then, so are several other players, Strong being one of them. No, I would not trade up that high for Parker if Strong is still on the board. I would trade up to say 20 for Strong, to ensure they get him at a good price, too boot. This way, they could fill the other needs with the remaining picks, in the 3rd, 4th, etc. Tight ends are even for the most part up to 4 deep, after that, they are not as athletic. But they can still land a good one in the 3rd. The linebackers, both inside & outside, are eh, ok this year for where the Ravens pick, they are all pretty even, all very raw. Personally, I think they can land Dupre in the 2nd, maybe even in the 3rd if they trade up, a solid de/outside backer. He is far more "polished" than Gregory and has more potential. Do this, that would leave a true BPA for the 4th, 5th, 6th and undrafted players they need to fill out the roster.

Seems a bit contradictory to what they said, Ozzie, at the liars luncheon. I wonder if this "change" of wording opens the door to DBG in the draft........

I agree, if Strong is there I would hope the team is smart enough to take him or trade back if possible. They don't need a dt that high, certainly not a runningback either at 26.

Do I not explain my self well enough for you? Is that why you keep ignoring parts of my post? I clearly said I have seen it reported that Gregory MIGHT be the pick, NOT that I thought he would be the pick. I stated I thought it likely that position would be be the pick and that that position is weak in that all the players are roughly on the same level, with potential, but need much, much coaching. Is that clear enough for you?

Let me repeat my self in case I was not clear. I have not followed the team as I used to, so it would be an uninformed guess. But were I to take one, I would say likely, knowing the way he went about it in the past, a de/olb, hopefully not, as I think they can find one equal if not better in later rounds. This year's class at that position, from what I have seen in watching the games this year, is pretty equal and, perhaps key, all need a lot of coaching to even rate playing time over what the team already has. I have seen some report Gregory could very likely be the pick, I hope very much they are wrong, saw a lot of his play, weak is the term I would use for him.

Yeah, sure, sure, move camp out of Westminster where the college was ABLE to handle the thousands per day, where local businesses saw big gains in patrons = money, to the Castle, where they can only have and have only drawn, "hosted between 400 to 600 fans each day in 2014"..... Sure thing, what is the max they can hold even with "buying" more land (currently a park sits across the street and private home owners own the land around the palace), maybe up to 1,000, but nothing close to, either in numbers nor in intimacy, add to that, the road their palace sits on is not, will not, cannot be able to handle that much traffic flow, site lines are not good on this narrow two lane road......... http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/

Don't know, never claimed to be kreskin, I don't have the time I once had to study the players, the teams, etc. You asked a loaded question, I purposely took the bait so you could have your day in the sun. This is a fan discussion board, second guessing is what makes the discussions go so well. circle jerks, they are for children who do not understand the game. Crav, the same person who never knew Boller had never played in the rain. The same person who thought Travis Taylor could cach a cold or Troy Smith was an NFl quarterback. Papa, if memory serves correctly, you me and several others from the board back then, sitting around the Windbag's sumer party discussing how lame a pick Clayton was.....

Five of seven, yes, back when I was studying the team and the game, how bout you? Plenty of peole have gotten the ravens first picks correct over the years, many even other draft picks in different rounds. It is not that difficult if you study the team and their tendancies.

Yes, back when I was writing, I acutally had five of their seven draft picks correct, including the first three rounds, the first round pick of Clayton, I almost begged the Ravens not to make; stated he would be a bust..... But then, every squirrel finds a nut....

hey, there was no video tape. The bigger deal is who Dallas signed and there being no outrage. He is an habitual abuser, unlike Rice, and unlike Rice, there is no video, only the written reports from the victim which no one wants to read.

Well, after he has been with them a little while and they see he can't catch the ball consistantly, your cousin and the Panthers, will know exactly why the Ravens let him walk. That is, if he holds up for more than 10 games per season........

Oh you are going to get Crav started............. There are some coaches who think you can teach a player to catch, that they just need the proper coaching and practice; Billick was one of said coaches. Taylor had the speed and size that was the fancy of NFL teams back then, and today, to some extent, it goes in cycles. However, as history shows, if a player, as in Taylor's case, can't catch by the time they reach college, they will never learn to catch consistantly. Taylor had no issues getting open, neither in college nor in the NFL, he just "paniced" when the ball came to him, whether he was wide open or had a contested catch. He only moved up the draft boards because of his size and speed.

Talk about being on a crash diet and some one brings in a box of your favorite donuts.... I heard Mel talking about him being a sleeper who could move up the boards. Me, I can deal with poor routes, I can deal with not being very strong.... This kid knows how to use his speed, he also has incredible quickness, I mean just look at this box of donuts- everything the Ravens had hoped T Smith could be, but wasn't. Who wouldn't want this kid? Those are all the positive things you can't teach/coach, those are instinctual characteristics. However----- Those are all the tings the Ravens got from T Smith, some of that can be "cured" with coaching, but the hands, you either have them or don't. Third round? Yes, any higher, no, not worth the risk.

They will announce the official comp picks next week, likely Monday, perhaps, Tuesday, at the owners meetings. Ravens should get, yes, 3, maybe 4 of them, 4,5, 6 and maybe a 7th.

They won' draft a runing back at 26, history shows they can find one later or even undrafted. With Toussaint and Tali, a rookie would be 4th on the depth chart, hardly worth wasting a pick that high on a runningback. Plus, Gordon won't likely last that long, pedning what the Iggles do... A pass rusher like Dupre, maybe, (they should be able to get him in the 2n or even 3rd) but then they have a a ton of young talent on the defensive line, those you mentioned plus Bilukidi, Lewis-Moore, Means, Tyson, who was "dino-nugget-might last year, Thompson, who they need to find out more about in game situations.

Well done sir.

As would I. It is high time this franchise develop a receiver they drafted. Not sure what happened to them since leaving Cleveland, but darn did they lose out on how to pick receivers and develop them... There are plenty to chose from.... Tre is one in a long list. I can only think he didn't get proper coaching on how to use his speed & quickness to get open, rather than rely on his strength and the way the game is called in college...

Tre McBride, William & Mary- 6'-210, long arms, strong, very strong. Reports are that he ran a 4.3, but scouts say game tape doesn't show that speed... His down fall is routes, but route running can be taught, ...http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/tre-mcbride?id=2552428

Another niner to retire, 24 year old, Chris Borland, after his rookie year, after leading the team in tackles, says the risk is not worth the reward......

Different era, speed was not a big deal back then, but I would bet they were in the 4.58-5.3 range. As for Max, good yes, but for me, not so far better than the others, Wilford for example, that you would take in the first round when you can get the same or almost the same in the 2, 3, 4th round.

Yes, time will tell if he will be good for the team or not... But this shows how poorly the team thinks of the two young corners they drafted; B-U-S-T.

Yep, the splits are what to look for, the cone drills as well. They tell you how quick some one is, if they can get seperation with more than just running straight down the field. Fucnhess can't,

Well, we know he plays well in the snow here in Baltimore................. I doubt they let him go, they two speed demons would be a nice fit for them, especially if Wallace keeps his act going of dropping easy passes, running improper routes, they will need Patterson.