dc. Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 So, we traded JJ - expecting a cost of about $10m this year. Final return:Jemile Weeks (in trade)PTBNL (in trade)Ryan Webb (approx. 2.5m this year)Grant Balfour (approx 7.5m this year) Total - just about the $10m we were "saving" Ultimately - I guess we do "win." We have a closer of equal caliber (arguably better in some ways), another strong arm for the bullpen (which is now looking pretty formidable), and two "prospects." Personally, I still think Weeks is just a total scrub and we'll be dumping him soon enough. But can't say we didn't get some value for that cash. I simply suppose I was hoping we'd get something legitimately strong in return with our cash. We still have no LF, no DH, no 2B and could really use a #1 pitcher - or at least a solid #2 or #3. All those positions have a solid "fill in" crew... but none are locked down. Would love to have at least two of these spots truly FILLED, not just filled in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 We just traded Valencia for a left fielder too, to KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 With PA in charge, we are right on schedule with no major FA pickups. We"ll snatch up the leftovers after all the decent deals are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 With PA in charge, we are right on schedule with no major FA pickups. We"ll snatch up the leftovers after all the decent deals are done. And there is nothing wrong with that if we compete on the field.. Just ask Yank fans this year, they are not happy with Tex, they dont get [paying a CF 153 mil over 7 years, and they dont even know who Brian Roberts is because of his lack of time he has been on the field over the past 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 And there is nothing wrong with that if we compete on the field.. Just ask Yank fans this year, they are not happy with Tex, they dont get [paying a CF 153 mil over 7 years, and they dont even know who Brian Roberts is because of his lack of time he has been on the field over the past 3 years. "if we compete" That's a big if. We're just going to have to assume this team that didn't get a wildcard this year will all compete better next year. Manny's injury won't effect him, Davis will put up the same numbers...etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 And the entire analysis is off as Balfour has shoulder trouble. Always wondered why the As would trade for the more expensive player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 "if we compete" That's a big if. We're just going to have to assume this team that didn't get a wildcard this year will all compete better next year. Manny's injury won't effect him, Davis will put up the same numbers...etc... Theres nothing that has been done yet to say we wont compete, Buck is a different type of manager, hes not going to sit and wait if we get off to a slow start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 There's plenty that's been done. Don't forget who is NOT on this team this year... Hammel, Feldman, McLouth, Johnson, Roberts, Valencia... I'm sure I have forgotten a few. So, down 40% of our rotation, 20% of our bullpen, 20% of our lineup. But its ok... David Lough and Jemile Weeks are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Weirder twist now... Balfour, his agents and two other docs say he is perfectly fine. They are saying the O's bailed just because. He may even file a grievance against the team. Great. I'm inclined to believe it. It would be a new low in Angelos' attempts to fake off season moves... But I don't think he's above it in the slightest. Sounds right up our Free Agent alley and MO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yet another epic off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Weirder twist now... Balfour, his agents and two other docs say he is perfectly fine. They are saying the O's bailed just because. He may even file a grievance against the team. Great. I'm inclined to believe it. It would be a new low in Angelos' attempts to fake off season moves... But I don't think he's above it in the slightest. Sounds right up our Free Agent alley and MO. Now that I dont get, why would we bail on Balfour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 I don't get it, except it's been clear from everything else this year that Dan is not authorized to spend any money. Seriously, our two most expensive deals have been 2.5m to a reliever and 1m to Reimold. Meanwhile, we traded away a 10m contract & watched other players that were ours or we had interest in sign elsewhere. Most without so much as an offer. Angelos is back and his wallet is closed - even though ticket sales and revenue have been up for two years and they are raising tic prices this year heavily. (It doesn't look heavy - but by years end the dynamic pricing will prove to be costing us all muchore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I hope thats not the case dc, It has been a very exciting 2 1/2 years..I was going to order the MASN package but if Angelos doesnt sell me a decent field product, I might have to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Well I hope it's not true too... But it sure does seem like the same pattern and same crap as years prior. This team CAN afford to have a few big contracts - we CAN afford to be in the market for anyone from Choo to Cano .... But Angelos doesn't want to and won't. The rules on spending are entirely arbitrary. Some sensical, but mostly about being cheap and maximizing profits. Between close location to big markets and being in division with big markets, and a massive TV deal that controls another team's media.... The on field product has nothing to do with making money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 This whole Balphor debacle is a new low. Basically blacklisting a player for other teams buy putting a fake injury on him. Angelos is a slum lord plain and simple. Why put money in a team when he doesn't have to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I heard they are bringing Eric Balfour in for a physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 He wasn't an O long enough to care about his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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