tsylvester Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Boy he just proved my point today, didn't he?! Can't cover, goes off book and can't make the play. Shoot, he even doesn't get a deep enough drop when in zone to prvent toe deeper routes over the middle..... Oh, it's his second year, we should't expect too much of the young man, right? I mean, he was only a first round draft pick from Alabama. Guess what his issues were coming out of college? hint- see above..... I said it on draft day two years ago, and it holds true today. He is only good at blitzing, even then, only every now & then. Did he cost this team the game? No, but boy did he fail to play a big role in a victory.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Losing Suggs,Ngata and the kid to the Bears put much pressure on Mosely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Losing Suggs,Ngata and the kid to the Bears put much pressure on Mosely One excuse..... next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 "On a Sunday morning sidewalk,I'm wishing, Lord, that I was stoned.'Cause there's something in a SundayThat makes a body feel alone.And there's nothing short a' dyingThat's half as lonesome as the soundOf the sleeping city sidewalkAnd Sunday morning coming down." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Lions are getting clobbered with Ngata 35-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Lions are getting clobbered with Ngata 35-7. Ravens don't miss him, shoot, neither does Royal Farms, as he and Justin speak for them now............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The Lions are getting clobbered with Ngata 35-7.It's the system, he fit our system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 At least the next two weeks are late games, I can get in some beach therapy before watching our defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hey T - with all due respect we know you have a hard on for Mosley but thinkabout this. In his first 2 years, Ray had 2 INTs, 6.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble while learning the pro game. In MOsley's first 2 years he has 2 INTs, 5 sacks, 3 last yr and 2 this yr, 1 forced fumblewith about 2/3 of the season left. He also has 110 tackles. Not bad I'd say for a young one who is still learningthe game and is even with Ray at this stage in INTs, sacks and tackles and as someoneposted, he's w/o Suggs. http://www.nfl.com/player/c.j.mosley/2543464/profile http://www.nfl.com/player/raylewis/2501750/careerstats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hey T - I wasn't on this board last year when Mosley won all those awards as a rookie like player of the month - twice. Four awards are issued and hegot half of them and then just missed out on rookie of the year to that guyfrom OAK. Did you pay tribute then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hey T - I wasn't on this board last year when Mosley won all those awards as a rookie like player of the month - twice. Four awards are issued and hegot half of them and then just missed out on rookie of the year to that guyfrom OAK. Did you pay tribute then? Tribute? I said the same things last year, both right after they drafted him and after those silly wards. Don't look at the tackle numbers, look to see where those tackles were made. Most of them were 10 yards or so down field, not good for a linebacker. Sacks? I said he can blitz well, and can get home sometimes, big deal, most quick linebackers can do the same on late releases. You are comparing his numbers with Ray? You do know Ray was 1) faster, 2) smarter (football iq) and stronger, at this point in their careers, right? Ray could also cover well, read routes well.... So don't compare the two. As I said, Mosely can not cover, could not cover in college, still can not. He can't even properly diagnose screan plays, or wheel routes. He loses the running back in the back field when he is suppose to cover him. He jumps around blocks, which causes him to be out of position and not make the proper stop at or behind the line of scrimmage. So he uses his speed to run the play down, 10 yards down field. He doesn't get proper depth on his drops in zone coverage. FAIL. These are all the things he also failed to do in college. He is an average line backer and yes, it is my opinion he will never be more than an average line backer. first round draft picks should not be average.... FAIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 OK, good points but numbers don't lie and his stats at this pointare the same as Ray and Mosley is fast from side to side line.People have written and said that. Maybe he can't cover as well but he's still learning. Who did you want? PIssburgh took Shazier and left Mosleyon the board and teams are ruinning all over him. Mosley wasmuch better. We wanted Zack Martin in the draft but Dallas took him and hebecame the best young RG in NFL just missing rookie of theyear after Beckham had has monstruous month of Decemberafter getting out of the gate slowly. BTW, we had Martin as a RTbut DeCosta said he was a RG all the while. Dallas said thesame thing and started him there. Ravens already had the best RG in Yanda. There was Ha Ha who went to GB and had a decent year butOzzie said he would have tried to trade down if Mosley wasn'tthere. I personally didn't want anyone from Alamba, never do sinceso many have failed. We got to the POs with Mosley and won in PIssburgh andshould have won in NE and gone to the SB. It wasn't MOsleysfault that we didnt. Right now everyone is piss poor and injured so it's not fair tokeep pissing on one player. It's everyone that can't cover. Silly awards - not the to guys that win them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm not as hard on CJ as T, but I think a key point is that stats can and do lie. The number of tackles can be totally misleading, even number of sacks. CJ rushed a lot more than Ray ever did. Urlacher used to put up big sack numbers, especially compared to Ray... No one cared because that's as much about the D calls as it is about talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm not as hard on CJ as T, but I think a key point is that stats can and do lie. The number of tackles can be totally misleading, even number of sacks. CJ rushed a lot more than Ray ever did. Urlacher used to put up big sack numbers, especially compared to Ray... No one cared because that's as much about the D calls as it is about talent. A little tid-bit; Ray would get the call to blitz and would often tell the weak side backer, whom ever it was at the time, Scott, mostly, to blitz and he would stay in coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBird Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yea, my dad always said you can make anything you want onstatistics but they don't lie. They don't show he's weak in coveragebut he's in the right spot to make the stops and get sacks. Ray won the big game in SD couple of years ago on the last playof game getting into the backfield same time as Rivers handed offand killed the runner and winning the game. The announcer said it's almost as if Ray knew where the play wascoming from. I laughed because he did know by the keys. He alwayscredited Marvin and Del Rio for teaching him the keys and taking himto the next level. When he went to his first pro bowl game in Hawaiihad gave a free trip at the best hotel to Del Rio and his wife as ananniversary present and he wanted him there on the sideline with him. Mosley hasn't reached that point yet but he's just learning. It takes severalyears to see how a draftee develop as we saw in Oher's case, he wasn'tso good by the time his rookie contract expired and Ravens didn't eventry to sign him. I'm betting they will with Mosley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 At least the next two weeks are late games, I can get in some beach therapy before watching our defenseAnd down a 12 pack too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hey T - with all due respect we know you have a hard on for Mosley but thinkabout this. In his first 2 years, Ray had 2 INTs, 6.5 sacks and 1 forced fumble while learning the pro game. In MOsley's first 2 years he has 2 INTs, 5 sacks, 3 last yr and 2 this yr, 1 forced fumblewith about 2/3 of the season left. He also has 110 tackles. Not bad I'd say for a young one who is still learningthe game and is even with Ray at this stage in INTs, sacks and tackles and as someoneposted, he's w/o Suggs. http://www.nfl.com/player/c.j.mosley/2543464/profile http://www.nfl.com/player/raylewis/2501750/careerstatsyou conveniently forgot to put down that Ray also had over 2 hundred tackles those first 2 years, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 And down a 12 pack too.Nahhh not on the beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Nahhh not on the beachC'mon, you tell the ole lady your going for a swim and you piss in the ocean. Done it many times in O,C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 C'mon, you tell the ole lady your going for a swim and you piss in the ocean. Done it many times in O,C.Are you kidding me, we beach at the shark bite capital of the world, New Smyrna Beach. Walking, shelling, sunning will be my therapy Sunday morning. I do park close to the restrooms though. Bruce Cunningham had a great blog yesterday, that in the ,4th quarter the Ravens had 37 million dollars in cap money standing side by side on the sidelines injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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