No criminal charges for Watson

[tsylvester]

I guess Sherlock couldn't find any "real" evidence. No shocking in he said she said cases, especially when the complaints are "massage workers".

Now, what does/can the league do?

Will he ever play again? Does Miami, Indi, Pitt, make a trade for him?

[papasmurfbell]

Now I expect him traded next week.  The league can't do anything I don't think. 

[tsylvester]

The league still can especially if he settles the suits.. Shoot, look at Trevor Buer, he, not that I agree with that life style, simply has consensual s& m, the girl was just in over head wanting to have sex with a pro ball player. 

Now he has been out of baseball for almost a year, with his suspension extended another week to 10 days.

It is all optics now a days.

[papasmurfbell]

I believe since he was suspended for the yr he can't be punished again. 

[tsylvester]

Yes, we are still waiting for the NFL to make a decision, it would be unbelievable except this is the NFL after all. The NFLPA has decided to pipe up, chime in. I can understand their point, at first read I even sort of kind of agrees with them, especially on the Kraft point, very similar circumstances.

However, while Kraft likely used women who were forced into this line of work, and likely paid much more money, these are very different  at the very heart.

Kraft was guilty of breaking the personal conduct policy.

So too is Watson. But it ends there. Sure, no criminal charges, but 29 women, at least a few of them are telling the truth, state that he forced them into having sex with him or at the very least, exposed him self, unwantingly for the women.

Yes, just as there are degrees of "crime", there are degrees for the personal conduct policy with Kraft, Snyder, Jones at one end, Watson at the other end.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/nflpa-preparing-aggressive-defense-for-deshaun-watson/

[tsylvester]

The league is "considering" a year suspension for Watson, with hopes it will be an 8-10 game suspension after the appeal.

He has already sat out a year, does that count?

https://nypost.com/2022/06/17/deshaun-watson-probably-facing-one-year-ban-from-nfl/

[papasmurfbell]

No.  He was paid in full and not suspended.  

[tsylvester]

He has settled all but 4 lawsuits against him

ESPN: Attorney Tony Buzbee says 20 of 24 lawsuits filed against Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson settled.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34125535/attorney-tony-buzbee-says-20-24-lawsuits-filed-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-settled

 

[tsylvester]

Hearings to start on Tuesday, NFL said to be looking for an indefinite suspension per ESPN....mmkay

[tsylvester]

According to SI, between 6-8 game suspension is expected.... oy

[papasmurfbell]

[GrubberRaven]

11 hours ago, papasmurfbell said:

That's funny

[tsylvester]

Six game suspension,first 3 weeks of season no practice. Can practice next 3 weeks, expected start is against Ravens. There will be no appeal if they hold to their statement last night, NFL may still appeal in next 3 days

[tsylvester]

"Premeditated, predatory behavior"

Words used by the judge, yet she only hands out 6 games? I don't want to hear; precedent, make a new avenue let the player appeal...

[tsylvester]

NFL has chosen to appeal, this ain't over yet folks

[tsylvester]

Watson now willing to accept an 8 game suspension & a $5 million fine.. hmmm

[papasmurfbell]

The negotiation has begun.

[GrubberRaven]

What kind of fuckery is that?  Let's make a deal?  Is the moderator Monty Hall now?

[tsylvester]

11 games, without pay, (losing only the least amount in his contract) $5 .million... agreed upon...

Watson's fine and contributions from both the NFL and Browns of $1 million each will create a fund to support nonprofit organizations in the United States "that educate young people on healthy relationships, promote education and prevention of sexual misconduct and assault, support survivors, and related causes," the NFL said in announcing the settlement.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34412381/source-cleveland-browns-qb-deshaun-watson-suspended-11-games-fined-5m-settlement-nfl-nflpa

[tsylvester]

2 hours ago, tsylvester said:

11 games, $5 nillion..million... agreed upon...

Boy, he still just does not get it. Even if he is innocent, shut up...

Quote

I'll continue to stand on my innocence, just because you know settlements, and things like that happen doesn't mean that a person is guilty for anything," he said. "I feel like a person has an opportunity to stand on his innocence and prove that, and we proved that from a legal side, and just going to continue to push forward as an individual and as a person.

[papasmurfbell]

I find the behaviorist part interesting.  He better take that seriously or he will be out longer.

[tsylvester]

The Browns will be on the hook for $46 million next year since it was not a full season suspension; ouch you get what you trade for.....