vmax Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 This team is going to stay competetive... Projecting 2013 Salary Cap We know the Ravens are strapped for salary-cap cash this season, but how are things looking for 2013? The organization appears to be in a solid position so far, according to ESPN analystJohn Clayton’s projections. Baltimore currently has $15 million of cap space available, which ranks eighth in the league. Even though there are 24 other teams with less wiggle room, Hensley believes the Ravens could stand to free up some more cash. “Of course, the Ravens could use more considering quarterback Joe Flacco, running back Ray Rice and safety Ed Reed will be free agents.”http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2012/06/12/late-for-work-612-60000-reasons-not-to-skip-mandatory-minicamp/ Or not.... If you are amoung the many who think the world will end in December 2012, then take a peek into the future at this potential O line that you could see at some point during the season... McKinnie LT, Williams LG, Wragge C, Yanda..(wait...let's have him nursing a minor injury and put the rookie Gradowski in), and Oher at RT..(Let's go all the way...Michael has a hang nail...and put Jah Rheid or Harewood here). That will strike fear in the hearts of defenses...and Ravens quarterbacks...and running backs... Let's end on a happy note... "Isn't that Flacco's hand?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 We wont have any wiggle room if Joe dosent get a deal done, whats the Tag # going to be on a QB next season? I think its around 16 mil. Reeds a non issue, this should be his last year, or hell with him not here at camp maybe last year, was his last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Joe has to have a new deal if he is here next yr. They have a large amount of space because a bunch of guys contracts end after the season. After they reink guys that will disapear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 LOL at you thinking he wont be here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I never said that. I am talking about 2013. You are talking about wiggle room and joe redoing his deal. He would have to have a new deal next yr because his contract ends after the season. Maybe they tag him next yr because they don't knock out long term deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yagersports Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I specifically read "if he is here next year". Perhaps it would be better to say that didn't come out the way I meant it? Cuz that was pretty clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sounds like trouble to me reed has said 7.5 mill is disrespectful rice will want at least 8 mill a year and then there flacco who wants top 5 money. So its looking like yinz are in trouble becuase you have other free agents and draft picks to sign. Somebody is going to have to go maybe even two of them. Do you franchise flacco and let rice go do you tag rice again andntransition tag flacco and hope no teams think he is worth a first round pick which wont happen to many teams need a qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sounds like trouble to me reed has said 7.5 mill is disrespectful rice will want at least 8 mill a year and then there flacco who wants top 5 money. So its looking like yinz are in trouble becuase you have other free agents and draft picks to sign. Somebody is going to have to go maybe even two of them. Do you franchise flacco and let rice go do you tag rice again andntransition tag flacco and hope no teams think he is worth a first round pick which wont happen to many teams need a qb. I am not worried about Reed. He does not have an agent, so we do not have the ability to negotiate with him. I have a feeling we'll either sign him to a CAP friendly deal (win-win, upfront money for Reed) or he will retire. If his demands are too outrageous, then let him walk. Some other team might get two great years out of him, but it's not an enormous loss in the long-run. Flacco wants top five QB money, but unless he wins the Super Bowl this coming year or has an absolutely off the wall year, I think he will settle into top ten money. Not worried there either. The Rice situation is delicate. On one hand you have a guy who might be the most popular Raven, is a Pro Bowl player, is huge in the community, and is the offensive leader well liked by his teammates. On the other hand he plays the most dispensable position in the league, and it makes financial sense to tag him for the next two years then let him walk. This is the toughest negotiation IMO. The market is already set with the McCoy and Foster deals, so Rice does not have a lot of leverage here. I am not sure where we go with this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Lets not forget next year the cap goes up 15 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I think its 2014 when the cap goes up the tv money kicks in next year after the official start of the nfl year so it wont help the cap next year if im remembering what i read correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 No the cap doesn't go up. The NFLPA made a deal to not let the cap go down this yr by pushing future increases to this yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 No the cap doesn't go up. The NFLPA made a deal to not let the cap go down this yr by pushing future increases to this yr. Yeah its 2014 til we are in the clear, 2013 might be as bad as 2002 when we went thru cap purge hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Maybe oz will do what colbert does and restructure a bunch of deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 It is dumb to kick the can down the road. Let some guys go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I agree with you there but we had guys like ben troy ike hampton harrison and timmons do it push the money to when the cap goes up hamton and probably harrison will not be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yagersports Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Honestly, you guys act like this team isn't already very deep. Who or what position is in such a great need? Secondly if it is a great need, who is so available and so good that we need to go get them? WR looks 10x better this year than last. Our line my be struggling, but honestly, how early is it? There's alot of time to get guys together and get this thing to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The OL needs help. MLB will need help big time atfre the season. I like Thompson in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 The OL needs help. MLB will need help big time atfre the season. I like Thompson in time. There is plenty of time to worry about that next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yagersports Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 What team in the league is perfectly filled with depth at every position? So far, we're on track and looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 There is plenty of time to worry about that next year. I project out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yagersports Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I project out. No you don't, you say whatever comes to mind that disagrees with another post or common thinking. You're not thorough in your thoughts and you shoot from the hip. Then you get worked over and you chose to ignore the topic at hand and you bring something else up. Usually, you get worked over on that too. I'm sure you have some valid points and you seem like a smart person but your thoughts are all over the place and if something doesn't go your way you divert rather than say, "I didn't think of that, or I see your point". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 No I do look at what will be difficiencies into the future. Fix them early and they will be assets then. That is why for 3 yrs I wanted them to draft a center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Here's another perspective from Eisenberg.... before you go off howling about how they mismanaged the cap to this point of paralysis, I suggest you to take a deep breath and think this thing through more deeply.Where the Ravens stand now against the cap is, first and foremost, the price of their success. They have good players. No team has more representatives in the NFL Network’s Top 100 of 2012, and the Ravens’ seven doesn’t include Yanda or Webb, two of their better young guys. That’s lot of good players, and the Ravens have paid to keep them all in purple. That has pushed them toward the cap limit, no question. Haloti Ngata’s deal alone, which made him one of the highest-paid athletes in any sport over the past year, pushed them toward the limit. It’s not a coincidence that they’re up against the cap but also on a run of four straight playoff appearances. Frankly, I think it’s better to be close to the limit than at the other end of the list, sitting there with millions to spend but simply not doing it. Fans of those teams have every right to howl. A team with $20 million in cap space is either a) trying to win on the cheap, by cutting corners b) unable to close deals for premier free agents, c) lacking players who warrant big bucks, or d) some combination of the above. It doesn’t do you much good to have $20 million to spend right now. The free-agent cupboards are mostly bare.http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2012/06/26/eisenberg-dead-last-in-cap-space-not-a-bad-place-to-be/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Well had they done with Ngata what they did with Webb his cap number would be lower. Stuff like that would allow them to be in a better position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yeah but mostly all the good teams are dancing around the cap hell the steelers are still projected as being over next year. Nothing like last year or the year before though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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