Wrong again papa

[vmax]

You're just striking out man....

 

 

OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome says the decision to fire offensive coordinator Cam Cameron in December was orchestrated solely by coach John Harbaugh.

Cameron was dismissed the day after Baltimore lost to the Washington Redskins on Dec. 9. There had been speculation either Newsome or owner Steve Bisciotti pushed Harbaugh into making the call.

Asked Friday if that was the case, Newsome said "No!" eight times and added, "That wouldn't be fair to John."

Quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell replaced Cameron and helped rejuvenate quarterback Joe Flacco and the offense. The Ravens are heading to the Super Bowl after scoring 90 points in three playoff games.

Newsome says Harbaugh discussed firing Cameron during the ride home after the Redskins game, then solidified his decision the next day.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8880994/super-bowl-2013-john-harbaugh-decision-fire-cam-cameron-gm-says

[Dunno]

Sorry, but I don't believe that. I do however believe that Newsome has to say that publicly.

 

There has just been too much smoke in the past, not the least Biscotti's comment about liking Cam under fire.

[vmax]

So Ozzie's a liar?

 

Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome was emphatic in denying that he and
owner Steve Bisciotti placed any pressure on coach John Harbaugh to fire
offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and replace him with quarterbacks coach Jim
Caldwell.

The dismissal happened Dec. 10, the morning after the Ravens' overtime loss
to the Washington Redskins, and Newsome said he held a discussion with
Harbaugh during the trip back to Baltimore from FedEx Field.

"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that wouldn't be fair to John," Newsome said
today in the cafeteria at team headquarters. "John has to stand before his
coaching staff and his players. If at any one point do they ever think that he
is overly influenced by Steve and I, then he loses his staff and his players. It
has to be him."

Newsome said the decision to fire Cameron wasn't a snap judgment.

"No question about it," he said. "We try to have a process in everything we
do. We talk about it a lot in the draft. We talk about it a lot in free agency.
The process of hiring Jim Caldwell is something we talked about and why we
wanted to do it and why he wanted to do it. No, he didn't just walk into my
office that Monday morning and say, 'I want to make that move.' When we got off
the bus downtown and we both were driving home from that Redskins game, John and
I talked about it that night. 'I think I might have to make a decision.'

"He was telling me all the reasons why. We try to minimize the downside and
maximize the downside. Steve [bisciotti] and John knew I had already been
through that before when [former Ravens coach] Brian [billick] fired Jim Fassel.
So, I had a history of why we did it, what we went through to do it."

Newsome did acknowledge operating as a sounding board for Harbaugh on the
move to fire Cameron, the offensive coordinator for the Ravens for five
years.

"We used to call it the barbershop, now we call it a scrimmage," Newsome
said. "John and I, we talk about everything. What I try to do is help John look
at the downside and upside of every decision. John does the same thing for me.
What's the upside on making a trade or giving away a draft pick? What's the
downside of not having a Jarret Johnson on our football team? We try to look at
the downside and upside.

"That's what I try to do for John is paint a picture so he can have as much
information as he has to make that decision. It came down to when he walked into
my office and told me he was going to make that decision he had a peace about
himself, and that's all I can ask of him. Yes, I think this is the right thing
to do."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ozzie-newsome-says-no-pressure-was-placed-on-john-harbaugh-to-fire-cam-cameron-20130125,0,3439062.story

 

It's clear to me that John initiated the discussion by expressing his wishes to fire Cam. Then it went into the discussion process.

Edited January 25, 2013 by vmax

[thundercleetz]

I'm with papa and Dunno. I don't buy it. I'm not saying Ozzie's a lier, I'm saying he's not telling the whole story in this specific instance.

[oldno82]

I think we'll never really know for sure but Ozzie definitely has got me leaning towards it being Harbs decision.

[OutsideRzAcE]

Why is it so hard to believe it was Harbs decision? They two were verbally going out it by all accounts in the Washington game. It probably was the last straw for harbs.

[papasmurfbell]

It is called circling the wagons. There is a reason Byrne works there. It is that or White House Press Sec.