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On Moore, half the scouts/analysts seemed liked him, half seemed to not like him. I'm skeptical, but we have him now. Put him at split end and see if he can get open downfield. Joe hasn't really had a deep threat who can attack a ball at its high point. Might as well give Moore a chance. Sorry are we talking about Clarence Moore or Chris Moore?

Why would you assume we have a good WR corps right now? Smith is coming off an injury as is Perriman who has never played a down. Wallace may be a good pickup but he's a one trick pony. The rest of the group are a bunch of unproven players... quantity = quality? Look at the statistics and tell me Ozzie knows how to pick good WRs.

Camp is actually 2 wasted picks since we traded with Cleveland for him. Its really is a statistical wonder at the black hole that is our WR draft history Jermaine Lewis James Roe Patrick Johnson Brandon Stokley Travis Taylor Ron Johnson Javin Hunter Devard Darling Clarence Moore Derek Abney Mark Clayton Demetrius Williams Yamon Figurs ( drafted in 3rd and traded a 2nd for it) Marcus Smith Justin Harper David Reed Torrey Smith Tandon Doss Tommy Streeter Aaron Mellette Michael Campanaro Breshad Perriman Darren Waller

If he's dropping passes left and right he'll fit right in

Ray was cringe worthy on some of those shows.

Like you said cleetz maybe I'm holding him to JO standards which is impossible. The other thing that bugs me was he wasn't the uncontested best LT in the draft. I've heard nothing but good things about Stanley out of minicamp so we'll see. It just scares me with the possibility of having 2 rookies on the left side and Joe coming off an injury.

and honestly Oher worked fine, we are the ones that fucked him up with switching him every other week... had to switch him because he sucked ass

If Perrimans IR'd this year it'll be 3 unnamed

I heard Conklin was "their guy", Ozzie said Stanley was rated over Tunsil on his board so who knows GMs lie. Ozzie has proven to take Olinemen in the midrounds who can produce so I thought they'd get a LT there. I just don't like the pick, Stanley just doesn't look psychically imposing. There's a video of him next to Joe and they look the same size. I like my LT's to have JO/McKinnie size. This smaller faster style is more for zone blocking which is why they drafted him IMO. I think he'll get owned by bull rushers, edge rushers he'll be ok.

I think we could've gotten stanley in the mid round. Oz could've traded back and gotten 6-4th round picks. Then the experts would rate the draft an A++.

People say injuries all the time....but Webb/Smith/Lewis/Hill/Arrington our starting secondary blowed last year. There wasn't a lead they couldn't screw up. No injury bug to blame (maybe Jimmy Smith).

82 he was a late round guy due to his injury bug...he just can't stay on the field

I agree with tsy. If they were scared of the injury due to Perriman thats understandable... but dont blow smoke saying you had him rated lower than Correa they were also blowing smoke with the Stanley>Tunsil arguement

My opinion on Ozzie isn't just from this offseason this has been brewing since the 2012 draft. Out of 8 players only KO panned out as a good pick. 2013 they had 10 picks and only 2 players have panned out (Wagner and Williams). His history of 4th round picks probably means only 1 will have a decent NFL career. Instead of using those 4-6th round picks to move up and get better talent they instead settle for project players. The Ravens policy post SB was that the team wont resign or restructure older players to jeopardize the future, so they've done that with Suggs and Webb and signed Weddle/Watson. Of all things I thought CB was the top priority going into the draft and they spend 2 late picks on it. Weddel will make an impact on the secondary but the idea of Wright and an injured Smith being our starting 2 CBs scares me.

I really liked Buckner, reminded me of Ngata (not as good). We had to waste a top 10 pick on a LT since Oz screwed up on Monroe

I'm off the purple Kool-aid. This draft pissed the shit out of me. "Competition" means no one is good enough to be a day one starter like tsy said it's just the best of the averages. Harbs will give his "we drafted football players" speach..... no shit you didn't draft golfers. Oz's genius wore off when Ray and Ed rode off into the sunset.

Team went heavy on speed this year

We didn't need Upshaw 2.0

Hating this draft so far.... but who knows

In Oz we Bust

Heard Jack could have a degenerative knee problem, also the nerve was messed up. IDK it must be toxic enough for every other team to pass, he'll go today maybe not in the 2nd.

I wouldn't risk Jack till at least the mid #3rd Reminds me of KLM.... early round talent that fell do to an injury... and cant stay healthy

Separated at birth ?

Art Modell being the only NFL owner to relocate a team, has robbed Cleveland of a historic franchise which is worthy of a ban from the HOF ~ Every national sports writer

I think the guy will get manhandled by bull rushers... looks undersized to me... good technique guy though