oldno82

Well, the Ravens are in a real pickle with the defensive coaching and personnel. Who is available at this point in the season to coach the secondary that would be any better? Who is out there that could replace Williams? Or do we believe things have gotten so bad that anybody would be an improvement? I think, unfortunately the team has to wait until the season is over to address both the coaching and player issues in the pass defense. I don't like that answer but I think we are currently stuck with what we've got. Ugh!

Yeah but Lattimore for a 3rd would have made my day.

BTW the pass rush was certainly decent last night...a nice improvement.

Agree with all of that. It looked to me that the Bengals' receivers, and Gesicki in particular, were whining about the coverage and wanting PI penalties throughout the game while what I saw was just some good man-to-man sticky coverage. And let's face it...a ref can probably call holding on every play if they want to. There's a lot of reasons this referee crew leads the league in flags thrown, just as Tsyl said before the game was ever played!

Don't think it matters. He hasn't contributed squat since we picked him up. Of course, it could again be the defensive scheme they're running...presuming Orr/Pees actually have one.

I don't think Urban will play because of the concussion protocol. Harbs was mentioning there's a 'chance' Keaton Mitchell could play but I think they'll hold him back for another week and a half.

F---in' Great! We get to watch zebra ball.

He's not. It's the coaching that's causing the secondary mess along with the absence of a bona-fide pass rusher.

I tend to agree. We don't have an adequate pass rush. I've finished watching about half the Broncos game and I've got to say there were too many pass plays that had NO pass rush to speak of. What's a guy like Joe Burrow going to do against us this Thursday, especially with the weapons he has? Looks like the D is not going to be of a caliber to get us very deep in the playoffs. Disappointing.

Well, sad to say I was out of town for the Broncos game but recorded it and am just getting around to watching it now. Offense, especially Lamar and Flowers is most impressive. Defense held their own. The Bengals offense will be much more difficult to handle. Burrow has the talent and weapons to shred our already shaky secondary. The Pees defense won't be able to slow them down I don't think...bend but don't break won't hold the Bengals offense. Relentless pressure on Burrow is the only way to beat these guys and we don't seem to have much of that. So to me it looks like a shoot out. I think the Bengals have the edge this week.

They won’t win without Lamar.

The Ravens will beat the Broncos but the defense will still look out of joint. Appears now the coaches on D need a real kick in the ass because things are not improving. And it ain’t the players. We may need to hire a new DC if this continues sooner rather than later.

It’s an alright move that costs us very little. Hell, the Panthers are eating most of his salary. we do need defensive help too though. I hope Eric isn’t done yet.

They need better coaching...but I don't know if there's anybody better who is avaiable.

...and lets not forget we have 4 injured non-playing players on D today: Humphrey, Wiggins, Urban, and Pierce with the last two getting hurt in this game fairly early.

Not impressed with Orr/Pees and whoever else is coaching our defense. Would like to see Pees cut loose and someone stronger brought in. Question is, who's is available?

Yeah I'm not worried about the offense (though I wish the line was more consistent) but the defense continues to bother me. Giving up 29 points to the Browns is too many. Lots of missed opportunities on INTs for us and Jameis had a bit too much time to throw. Cleveland was functioning at a high level today.

Latest is he's ruled out.

If Winston can keep his INT machine off he could be a problem for our dysfunctional secondary. Is Chubb really fully recovered from his injury? If he is, and if the Cleveland O-line plays decently, he could also be a problem. But even with all that, it's hard seeing the Ravens losing this one.

Winston's not great but he's better than their #2 and maybe even #1. That's still not saying much. Chubb will be their best weapon but I bet Winston makes a real effort to show he can be a #1 somewhere too. Chubb and their defense and the fact that they're playing at home does make this a potential trap if the Ravens get too cocky. Still I think we'll win it as long as we stay focussed on all that we want to achieve this year...a Super Bowl.

Crosby to Detroit does seem to be gathering the most media buzz.

There’s been some talk about Maxx Crosby being available for at least one and maybe 2 first round picks. That’s a pretty steep price but what do you think of that?

That's how I read it too. I think it was smart to bring in some help for Orr but Pees shouldn't have been selected.

Yup...a breakout year for Bateman. Glad we re-signed him.

Well...he was bugged by injuries too in the past and missed a lot of practice time and just couldn't seem to get over a few drops that may have made Lamar look elsewhere.