Better Quarterback: Flacco or Roethlisberger

[OutsideRzAcE]

I was just watching my local Pittsburgh news and much to my surprise one of the stories is that a Baltimore Sun poll shows that 94% think Roethlisberger is better than Flacco. Of course this makes the anchors giddy: "One more reason to be proud to be a Steelers fan".

 

I'm thinking there is no way in hell that after he's the SB MVP, Flacco is only garnering 6% of the vote against Roethlisberger in his own hometown paper UNLESS the sample size is ridiculously low. Wrong -about 9500 votes in and Flacco is still getting crushed 93-7.

 

What do you guys think? I'm wondering if the majority of you guys think Flacco still comes up short against Big Ben? Roethlisberger certainly has the better resume but he's also 3 years older, and has been more injury prone.

[vmax]

Rthsslsxxbrrgrrr never had a string of 4 straight playoff wins like Joe. The Steelers won those SB's despite Ben....with the Refs help. A Tebow led Bronco team defeated the Steelers in their last playoff game and Rthsslxxbrrgrr interceptions and poor judgment caused the Steelers to miss the playoffs last year.

Joe has the better arm and accuracy. He has no injury history while Ben can't make it through a season.

At this time Joe is ascending and Rthsslxxbrrgrr is descending and he has passed Ben as the better QB.

[cravnravn]

Its all based on the 3 game sweep of us in 2008,

 

Stealer Fans LOVE living in the past. And when joe does beat Ben, they always have one of their 6 redi-made excuse cards ready for play.

[cravnravn]

There's an article to go with the poll

 

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-sports-blitz-joe-flacco-ben-roethlisberger-debate-20130508,0,7726021.story

[thesteelhurtin]

Rthsslsxxbrrgrrr never had a string of 4 straight playoff wins like Joe. The Steelers won those SB's despite Ben....with the Refs help. A Tebow led Bronco team defeated the Steelers in their last playoff game and Rthsslxxbrrgrr interceptions and poor judgment caused the Steelers to miss the playoffs last year.

Joe has the better arm and accuracy. He has no injury history while Ben can't make it through a season.

At this time Joe is ascending and Rthsslxxbrrgrr is descending and he has passed Ben as the better QB.

Big Ben got hurt this year and the Steelers were rolling he was never healthy again and the Steelers fell short despite having the number one defense. Also I didn't realize the defense threw the game winning pass to Holmes I swore it was big Ben. Throw the bronco game out the Steelers were missing 11 starters and Ben was on one leg.

[thesteelhurtin]

How can you say flacco is more accurate then Ben when Ben is always over 60% has flacco ever been over 60. Has flacco even sniffed throwing 30+ tds in a season.

[deeshopper]

Ben consistently sells out his receivers. They bail him out a lot.

[thesteelhurtin]

Ben consistently sells out his receivers. They bail him out a lot.

Yes stone hands Wallace bails Ben out. Why is it so hard for yinz to admit Ben is better. Higher career qb rating and higher career completion percentage while starting 3 more years then flacco. Flacco is a good qb but he's not on Ben's level and every stat shows it.

[thundercleetz]

Yes stone hands Wallace bails Ben out. Why is it so hard for yinz to admit Ben is better. Higher career qb rating and higher career completion percentage while starting 3 more years then flacco. Flacco is a good qb but he's not on Ben's level and every stat shows it.

 

Here's how I break it down:

I would take Ben over the Joe Flacco we have seen the first five years of his career.

I would take the Joe Flacco we saw under Jim Caldwell for the last three games of the regular season and through the playoffs over Ben.

 

We saw Flacco's ceiling toward the end of last season, and that ceiling, IMO, is higher than Ben. I think a full offseason with Caldwell and Flacco is primed for a huge year where he gets himself into the conversation with Ben. In the span of seven games (only six if you do not count the one QTR he played against the Bengals) Flacco threw for 1703 yards, 15 TDs, 2 INTs.

 

The only argument Flacco has over Ben is the six game hot streak that resulted in Flacco winning the Super Bowl MVP and beating the best QBs in the league. I think if Flacco shows that type of consistency in 2013 he will overtake Ben. Until then, I have to say Ben is the better QB.

[thesteelhurtin]

It's hard to say Ben has hit his ceiling since last year in a brand new offense he was having his best season ever and was in the mvp discussion until he got injured.

[thundercleetz]

It's hard to say Ben has hit his ceiling since last year in a brand new offense he was having his best season ever and was in the mvp discussion until he got injured.

 

Right I agree. Ben was having an awesome season. I took that into consideration. What I also took into consideration was Ben's durability. He gets hurt a lot and takes a lot of unneccessary hits trying to extend plays. I do not have a probelm with that as that has won him a lot of games (heck, won him a Super Bowl against the Cardinals), but would you rather have potentially 12 games of Ben vs. 16 games of Flacco? How many more hits does Ben have in him? I cannot imagine he will be a guy that will play past his mid-30s as an elite guy. In this tough division where every game matters durability makes the choice difficult.

 

If the Steelers can keep Ben upright, I think he is also primed for a huge season. BTW, I loved your draft. I thought your first two picks, Jones and Bell are perfect Steelers. Markus Weedon fits your new mold of WR like Sanders and Brown, average sized guys who are explosive with outstanding speed and run precise routes. We are in for some serious battles this season.

[thesteelhurtin]

Right I agree. Ben was having an awesome season. I took that into consideration. What I also took into consideration was Ben's durability. He gets hurt a lot and takes a lot of unneccessary hits trying to extend plays. I do not have a probelm with that as that has won him a lot of games (heck, won him a Super Bowl against the Cardinals), but would you rather have potentially 12 games of Ben vs. 16 games of Flacco? How many more hits does Ben have in him? I cannot imagine he will be a guy that will play past his mid-30s as an elite guy. In this tough division where every game matters durability makes the choice difficult.

 

If the Steelers can keep Ben upright, I think he is also primed for a huge season. BTW, I loved your draft. I thought your first two picks, Jones and Bell are perfect Steelers. Markus Weedon fits your new mold of WR like Sanders and Brown, an average sized guy who are explosive with outstanding speed and run precise routes. We are in for some serious battles this season.

Yeah Ben does take a bunch of unnecessary shots and hopefully the oline stays healthy this year and Ben fully buys into haleys system.v yeah I loved the Steelers draft and a couple of the udfa they got. Wheaton looks like he could be a great wr in our system. I like the fact the we have three wrs that can line up at any spot. I'm lookinjg for Reggie Dunn to be the camp surprise with his 4.22 speed. The ravens did pretty well in the draft my favorite pick of theirs is Simon he's going to be good.

[oldno82]

 

Here's how I break it down:

I would take Ben over the Joe Flacco we have seen the first five years of his career.

I would take the Joe Flacco we saw under Jim Caldwell for the last three games of the regular season and through the playoffs over Ben.

 

We saw Flacco's ceiling toward the end of last season, and that ceiling, IMO, is higher than Ben. I think a full offseason with Caldwell and Flacco is primed for a huge year where he gets himself into the conversation with Ben. In the span of seven games (only six if you do not count the one QTR he played against the Bengals) Flacco threw for 1703 yards, 15 TDs, 2 INTs.

 

The only argument Flacco has over Ben is the six game hot streak that resulted in Flacco winning the Super Bowl MVP and beating the best QBs in the league. I think if Flacco shows that type of consistency in 2013 he will overtake Ben. Until then, I have to say Ben is the better QB.

+1

[vmax]

It's a 'no brainer' for me.

If today I'm picking players for a brand new team, then I have to take Joe over Rthsslxxssbrrgrrr as my QB of the future.

I don't have any hesitation pulling that switch.

[thesteelhurtin]

Here is a major thing yinz are forgetting the Steelers have zero threat of run to help Ben hopefully leveon bell changes that so defenses can't just sit back and wait.

[cravnravn]

You have no O-Line, so technically you have no QB threat and no RB threat.

Edited May 10, 2013 by cravnravn

[thesteelhurtin]

You have no O-Line, so technically you have no QB threat and no RB threat.

If the oline stays healthy this year we will have a great one. Adams showed last year he is a run blocking beast. Decastro got better each of the three games he played while not at 100%. The only question I have is can Gilbert play LT. Also we git a new oline coach and are switching to zone blocking. I really like our line this year.

[deeshopper]

Yes stone hands Wallace bails Ben out. Why is it so hard for yinz to admit Ben is better. Higher career qb rating and higher career completion percentage while starting 3 more years then flacco. Flacco is a good qb but he's not on Ben's level and every stat shows it.

 

I said nothing in regard to a comparison between Flacco and Rothelizsfidjfberidf, only that the latter sells out his receivers.

[thesteelhurtin]

I said nothing in regard to a comparison between Flacco and Rothelizsfidjfberidf, only that the latter sells out his receivers.

Misread what you said my bad I don't think he does I can remember a few instances though we're he did lead a wr into trouble but that happens.