oldcrow Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 OR USE the word irregardless funny how you have "STANDARDS" or values on that matter of pissin on a grave Quote
vmax Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 FWIW, Randy Lerner screwed Art and the city of Cleveland. He conspired to get rid of Art and prevent the city from offering a deal that would keep Art and the Browns in Cleveland. There are some stories out there that Randy was negotiating a deal for himself behind Art's back. He was hoping to buy the Browns from Art and had a deal in place for the new stadium but was preventing the same offer being made to Art. It has been stated that if the offer that Randy secured for the expansion Browns had been offered to Art there is no way he would have moved the team. Randy wanted to own a team and the best way to do that was screw Art and then bring an expansion team back to Cleveland. It couldn't have worked out better for Randy either when the NFL forced Art to leave the history in Cleveland. But Karma is a bitch. Randy sucks as a sports team owner. He also purchased Aston Villa in the EPL and since then he has sold the perennial loser Browns to a crook and he has been looking to sell Aston Villa as well (and they have become a losing team narrowly avoiding relegation the last couple of seasons). That is the true story...and the Leaveland Mayor and City Council were on the take.and Carmen "Cap Cheat" Policy had his hands full of Art's blood. Quote
oldno82 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 FWIW, Randy Lerner screwed Art and the city of Cleveland. He conspired to get rid of Art and prevent the city from offering a deal that would keep Art and the Browns in Cleveland. There are some stories out there that Randy was negotiating a deal for himself behind Art's back. He was hoping to buy the Browns from Art and had a deal in place for the new stadium but was preventing the same offer being made to Art. It has been stated that if the offer that Randy secured for the expansion Browns had been offered to Art there is no way he would have moved the team. Randy wanted to own a team and the best way to do that was screw Art and then bring an expansion team back to Cleveland. It couldn't have worked out better for Randy either when the NFL forced Art to leave the history in Cleveland. But Karma is a bitch. Randy sucks as a sports team owner. He also purchased Aston Villa in the EPL and since then he has sold the perennial loser Browns to a crook and he has been looking to sell Aston Villa as well (and they have become a losing team narrowly avoiding relegation the last couple of seasons).What source is there for this? Quote
vmax Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 What source is there for this? Connect the dots.I've written in detail about this and I'm too tired to try and find it.The timeline of events and the unscrupulous players involved who profited from thisd tells the true story.Lerner convinced Art that unless he took Baltimores offer, that he would go belly up. He then told Art that he would fly with Art to Baltimore on his own plane...then on the tarmac, he backed out and put Art on the plane alone. Et Te Brute. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 Tags and the gov of Ohio convinced Art to take the deal. Lerner was in the deal that made him the new owner. Quote
ForceEight Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 That being said, I always like to remember that Art was one of the owners Tag strong-armed into voting against Baltimore and St. Louis in 1993. Quote
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