Goody may be GONE

[tsylvester]

I am sure it was mailed registered, signature required so the other part will be easy,,,,,,, Now, will it be a he said she said, bueller, bueller, oh excuse me, Mueller, Mueller...........

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I am sure it was mailed registered, signature required so the other part will be easy,,,,,,, Now, will it be a he said she said, bueller, bueller, oh excuse me, Mueller, Mueller...........

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Summons got nailed by ESPN.. Three week vacation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7a4OYuLgA8&index=12&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ

A very good view of the ESPN/Simmons/NFL dynamic.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDSlTBs-vSI&list=UUdJtV6wXT6lnrvldU_urowQ&index=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxL138BLE6A&list=UUdJtV6wXT6lnrvldU_urowQ&index=4

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/28/so-who-is-the-ap-source/

So who is the AP source?

The Ray Rice case reached full boil 20 days ago with the disclosure by TMZ of the only undeniable scoop in the entire case: Indisputable visual evidence of an act of extreme violence.

Since then, a pair of scoops from more established and supposedly more reputable media outlets fueled the conflagration at 345 Park Avenue. The media at large initially embraced both stories as completely accurate, in part because these reports contributed to the idea that those working in the business as of September 2014 would be witnessing, and participating in, a truly historic news event from the sports world.

But both of those scoops — the report from ESPN pointing to a coverup in Baltimore and the report from the AP pointing to a coverup in the league office — have plenty of questions that make the information somewhat less reliable than the indisputable visual evidence provided by TMZ. Factual inaccuracies, a detailed response from the Ravens that has yet to be rebutted in equal detail, and the odd handling of text messages exchanged between Rice and Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti undermined the ESPN report, to the point that it’s currently unclear whether any of it should be accepted as entirely true and correct.

Then there’s the AP report. On September 10, reality-TV star (seriously) Rob Maadi reported for the Associated Press that a law enforcement official sent the video to the league office in early April. Fifteen days later, Maadi’s source authorized the release of the person to whom the video was sent — NFL security director Jeff Miller.

At the risk of being accused of professional jealousy (again) or of being an aggregator who contributes nothing to the advancement of stories (again) or of simply being an asswhole (again), the AP story gives rise to a few questions that those of us in the media who are rooting for a front-row seat to history may not be inclined to formulate or articulate.

First, how did Maadi’s source know with certainty that the NFL didn’t have the tape in early April? Despite the claims of Commissioner Roger Goodell at his September 19 press conference, the NFL or the Ravens could have gotten the videodirectly from the casino, and the law enforcement official who sent it to the league office never would have known. Likewise, the NFL or the Ravens could have gotten the video directly from Rice’s lawyer, Michael Diamondstein, and the law enforcement official who sent it to the league office never would have known.

It’s possible that the source did his or her homework before sending the video, coming to the conclusion that the NFL didn’t have the video. Still, if someone in law enforcement were asking questions in March or early April regarding whether the tape had been sent to the league, the source would be easier to identify in hindsight — which would have made it more risky for the source both to send the video to the NFL anonymously, and later to leak to the AP that the video had been sent.

Second, what does “law enforcement official” mean in this context? The general identification appears to limit the universe of potential sources to Atlantic City police and the Atlantic County prosecutors office. If so, the person insisted on anonymity because disclosing evidence in an ongoing criminal investigation would violate the law.

As a reader who also is a lawyer recently suggested, the Atlantic County prosecutor could grant immunity to whoever disclosed the video, allowing that person to come forward and tell his or her story to investigator Robert Mueller, to the public, or both. Setting aside the potential day-to-day professional ramifications unrelated to prosecution, the source clearly wants his or her story to be heard, and to be believed. But it’s impossible to fully believe it without knowing who the source is, and without hearing the story directly from him or her.

Third, is “law enforcement official” a deliberate misdirection aimed at protecting the source? Let’s go back to the ESPN story for a moment. Per that report, Rice’s lawyer, Michael Diamondstein, obtained a copy of the video in early April, and he told Ravens president Dick Cass that the video is “f–king horrible.” But Cass didn’t ask for a copy of the video, and neither did the NFL.

Early April. That’s when the “law enforcement official” supposedly sent the video to the league office. What if it was Diamondstein who sent the video?

(DISCLAIMER SO I DON’T GET SUED: I’m just speculating; I’m not reporting or suggesting that Diamondstein sent the video. I’m simply identifying the universe of folks who had access to the video.)

Diamondstein would have known that the NFL and the Ravens hadn’t seen the video. Diamondstein would have had every reason to proceed in secrecy, since he’d potentially lose his law license for the obvious breach of multiple duties to his client. And Diamondstein possibly would have been motivated to turn up the heat on the NFL at a time when the NFL and the Ravens were trying to suggest that Rice and his representatives lied to them about what happened in the elevator.

It’s still highly unlikely that Diamondstein sent the video. But with Maadi’s report featuring a source who has opted to speak from behind a curtain of secrecy, it’s impossible to know with certainty who the person is, whether the person is telling the truth, or whether the person even exists. As mentioned on Friday, Muellershould press Maadi for access to the source, and Mueller should simultaneously lobby the Atlantic County district attorney to grant immunity to whoever from “law enforcement” disclosed the video.

Those efforts may not result in a more complete and credible story about who sent the video to the league office. But they will show that Mueller has approached this specific wrinkle the same way that a truly independent investigator would.

Ultimately, those efforts may identify the source. Or perhaps lead some to believe that the source doesn’t actually exist.

 

[tsylvester]

He, the author, is known for just blowing smoke so he gets his hits & clicks. I lost all respect for NBC when they picked him up, he is as devious and back stabbing as they come. As you read in the article, he takes both sides, why? Just to sell ....... He has no dog in this fight, has no answers and just regurgitates the same garbage...

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I would say he takes both sides because he doesn't know what happened. He is speculating and trying to figure it out with the available info.

[cravnravn]

Another thread that needsclosing

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Are you afraid of info?

[cravnravn]

No I'm tired of hearing you and you're groupies fucking n g bullshit

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Then feel free not to click on the thread. It is like if someone on the radio says something you don't like. Pick something different.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/28/nfl-nflpa-working-together-on-rice-appeal/

NFL, NFLPA working together on Rice appeal

A week ago, Commissioner Roger Goodell was poised to name a hearing officer to handle the Ray Rice appeal. Today, it still hasn’t happened.

Per a league source, the NFL and NFLPA currently are working together regarding the process.

The NFLPA and/or Rice could have pushed for a hearing to occur by September 30. That effort apparently won’t be made, in part because it’s not as if Rice would get another job if he were cleared to return in the near future.

It’s possible that the Rice appeal will be delayed until after the Robert Mueller investigation. Since the report will be made public, its findings and conclusions will be available to the NFLPA and Rice’s lawyer, Peter Ginsberg, to scrutinize in connection with the questioning of witnesses at the appeal hearing.

 

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/29/goodell-may-survive-in-the-short-term-not-over-the-long-haul/

Goodell may survive in the short term, not over the long haul

The league office typically doesn’t issue pink slips in the wake of controversy. Instead, the NFL usually waits for the issue to subside, and then the person deemed responsible for the problem quietly takes another job, either with an NFL team or as the A.D. at a Pac-12 school.

As it turns out, that same thing could happen to Commissioner Roger Goodell, even if his eventual departure would hardly be quiet.

Peter King of TheMMQB.com explains that at least one owner believes that Goodell could survive over the short term, but that lingering harm to the brand and/or public discontent could result in Goodell leaving at some point down the road.

Eventually, he may want to go — especially if he’s pushed to give up some of the extreme power he currently enjoys over matters of player discipline. Per King, some owners believe Goodell spends too much time on discipline. There’s also a belief he plays favorites when it comes to meting out punishment; it could be argued that the Ravens received an ill-advised favor on Ray Rice and that the Saints were unduly hammered two years ago in the bounty scandal.

Before any of that becomes relevant, Goodell must survive the aftermath of the Robert Mueller report and the ensuing Ray Rice appeal hearing, which likely will feature testimony from the Commissioner.

So while the focus for most football fans and those covering the sport have returned to the game, important issues linger regarding the man who runs pro football. Those issues could still bring him down.

 

[tsylvester]

No I'm tired of hearing you and you're groupies fucking n g bullshit

 

 

I'll slap you sir, groupie, PA-LEASE.... it is a conversation about the NFL, move along grandpa..... Hey, do you have my cell number? I keep getting text messages from some one in the 813, Tampa area, no idea who it is....

 

 

Papa, you have to know Florio to know what I am talking about; trust me, he is just pandering for hits & clicks....

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So is ESPN and CBS and everyone else. They all want clicks. They all smell blood in the water.

[cravnravn]

I'll slap you sir, groupie, PA-LEASE.... it is a conversation about the NFL, move along grandpa..... Hey, do you have my cell number? I keep getting text messages from some one in the 813, Tampa area, no idea who it is....

 

 

Papa, you have to know Florio to know what I am talking about; trust me, he is just pandering for hits & clicks....

No, I still have my Baltimore exchange of 443

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/07/nfl-details-efforts-to-get-rice-tape/

NFL details efforts to get Rice tape

Just when the Ray Rice controversy was beginning to recede from view, it’s back.

It’s back because the NFL has decided to provide more details to ABC News regarding the efforts to get the controversial Ray Rice elevator video.

“We reached out to multiple law enforcement agencies and a court, but were unable to come up with the video,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told ABC News. “With each of these efforts it was ‘give us everything.’”

McCarthy explained that the effort to acquire information began on February 19, four days after Rice knocked out his then-fiancée, now wife. NFL security representative Jim Buckley contacted the Atlantic City Police Department to request a copy of the incident report. Buckley was told to file a request under the “open records” law. Buckley also was informed that publicly-available documents weren’t likely to elaborate on the details of the assault.

Buckley’s effort to gather information included a call to the Atlantic County Solicitor’s Office, in an unsuccessful effort to reach the deputy solicitor. The league also asked the New Jersey State Police to assist, but they couldn’t because they had no involvement in the investigation.

Finally, the league attempted on June 6 to get the video from Jill Houck, the pre-trial intervention director at the Atlantic County Superior Court. She told the NFL the police report was not available.

The ABC News report, like so many other articles regarding this case, omits reference to any efforts to get the video from Rice or Rice’s lawyer, Michael Diamondstein. Diamondstein had the video, and the Ravens have acknowledged that, if they’d simply insisted that Rice direct Diamondstein to give the team the video, the team would have had it.

Earlier today, we directly asked the NFL whether Rice or his lawyer were asked to produce the video. The league has not yet responded.

Then there’s the question of whether the NFL legally could have gotten the video from the casino where the assault occurred. The league has insisted that the casino couldn’t have legally disclosed it. The director of communications for the New Jersey Attorney General has said that the casino would not have violated any lawsby giving the NFL the video.

Perhaps the biggest question is the timing of the NFL’s decision to address an issue that currently is dormant, and that likely would have remained that way until the release of Robert Mueller’s report. The potential answer is obvious; with the NFL’s owners gathering for the first time since the Rice video emerged 29 days ago, the league office wanted to publicize its version of the attempts to get the video in advance of the gathering of the 32 people who eventually will scrutinize the situation and determine whether “accountability” will include consequences.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s347H8Sy3T8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC__znj8ViM

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/10/angelo-claims-domestic-violence-incidents-were-covered-up/

Angelo claims domestic violence incidents were covered up

At a time when the NFL remains embroiled in controversy over whether and to what extent the Ravens and the league office tried to cover up a domestic violence incident involving Ray Rice, a former General Manager claims that cover ups were the norm. And the team for which he worked obviously denies that.

Former Bears G.M. Jerry Angelo tells Josh Peter of USA Today that NFL teams did not impose discipline after “hundreds and hundreds” of domestic violence incidents.

“I made a mistake,” Angelo said. “I was human. I was part of it. I’m not proud of it.”

A mistake would be one cover up. Multiple cover ups reflect a pattern of deliberate wrongdoing. Angelo admits he engaged in that behavior. He contends other teams did, too.

Angelo also explained the approach that the Bears used when a player was accused of domestic violence. It consisted of one basic inquiry.

“OK, is everybody OK?” Angelo said. “Yeah. How are they doing? Good. And then we’d just move on. We’d move on. . . .

“We knew it was wrong,” Angelo added. “For whatever reason, it just kind of got glossed over. I’m no psychiatrist, so I can’t really get into what that part of it is. I’m just telling you how I was. I’ve got to look at myself first. And I was part of that, but I didn’t stand alone.”

The Bears issued a statement disputing Angelo’s claims.

“We were surprised by Jerry’s comments and do not know what he is referring to,” the Bears said.

In contrast, former Bears defensive tackle Tank Johnson told USA Today that he’s aware of domestic violence incidents that did not result in punishment.

Angelo’s contention raises plenty of questions. Did team security intervene before police were called? Did teams actively attempt to persuade the victims in such cases to not call the police? Were police aware of the situation, and in any way complicit in the cover ups?

Angelo explained that he kept the situations quiet because he knew that discipline issued by the league against the players involved would have created a competitive disadvantage. His contention should prompt a full and complete investigation into whether and to what extent the Bears and other teams engaged in the behavior on which Angelo has blown the whistle. Allegations like Angelo’s can’t be ignored in the same way he claims the domestic violence incidents were.

Angelo has been out of the NFL for nearly three years. He has tried to get back in, most recently with the Jets in 2013. The only thing that’s certain about his decision to come clean is that it’ll now be even harder for him to secure employment with an NFL team.

Especially if he’s in any way exaggerating or embellishing the notion that “hundreds and hundreds” of domestic violence incidents were covered up.

Can't wait for Goody to explain this one.

[cravnravn]

I said it since day One

[tsylvester]

Hearing for Rice is set for Nov 5-6th... I find it very interesting that Goody is loking to reduce the suspension of Aldon Smith for, ready, good behavior......http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2237617-aldon-smiths-suspension-reportedly-may-be-shortened-by-1-2-games

 

 

Yet Rice, who was on very good behavior prior to the second suspension, is still on indefinate suspension....... You go Goody....... drugs, guns, drunk driving isn't as bad as hitting a woman.....

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Rice was scapegoated. That is why I don't think he ever plays again.

[tsylvester]

Ok, Ray and his wife, the special judge in the arbitration all make statements that infer Goody lied, was dishonest, untruthful, when he said the NFl could not get the video. Now that Janea is speaking out more, on ESPN and on the National shows, with former players backing up Ray, with the recent Richard Sherman "question & answer" session, it is quite clear, they, the players do not trust Goody. The players union holds all the cards now when it comes to discipline, the report from the NFL investigator looking into the video fiasco, should, now, has to, now, prove Good lied..... Goody may be gone, at the very least, quite neutered.

[GrubberRaven]

He's still a millionaire...

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Ok, Ray and his wife, the special judge in the arbitration all make statements that infer Goody lied, was dishonest, untruthful, when he said the NFl could not get the video. Now that Janea is speaking out more, on ESPN and on the National shows, with former players backing up Ray, with the recent Richard Sherman "question & answer" session, it is quite clear, they, the players do not trust Goody. The players union holds all the cards now when it comes to discipline, the report from the NFL investigator looking into the video fiasco, should, now, has to, now, prove Good lied..... Goody may be gone, at the very least, quite neutered.

What the NFLPA should do on every discipline issue is demand an arbiter for the smallest things like their socks not pulled up because they can't be sure Goody is fair. How long would the owners enjoy paying for that?