TBird Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 NFlers around the league are noticing our #1 pick Mosley as he turns heads. He clearly is the leaderat this point for Defensive Rookie of the Year. I didn't even like the pick on draft day being a Bama guy and all but man was I wrong. Zack Martin wasmy guy but Dallas drafted him. I heard that Jimmy Jones wanted Manzeal or someone and his sontalked him into Zack Martin who is a candidate for Offensive Rookie of Year althought Sammy Watkinsis in front. Back to Mosley, what a great day in a tough loss with 14 tackles. an INT, a sack, a QB hit. He can flyfrom side line to side like just like someone we knew for years. Comparisons are being made already. http://russellstreetreport.com/mosley-turning-heads-around-the-nfl/ Quote
cravnravn Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Called it, backed it up too just keep at this pace and I get after holiday spending cash Quote
vmax Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 ....Mosley in five career games. He is the ONLY player in the NFL right now with at least 40 tackles, an interception, a fumble recovery and a forced fumble. He also leads all linebackers league-wide with five passes defensed. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-109-Ray-Lewis-Advice-To-CJ-Mosley-After-Explosive-Start/73b196e7-f3f7-48a7-ba3f-fe5235461aea Quote
OutsideRzAcE Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Yea he was flying around Sunday, but he also got beat by the tight end for that 2nd Colts TD. Quote
tsylvester Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 That is not saying much, to be honest. Most of his tackles are far down feild, he still, as he did in college, over runs holes and has to chase down the back. Sure, he has some flash plays, but so far, he is playing as he did in college and that is not very good. I'll wait and see how he pans out over the entire season and if he can make the next few years. He may win the DPOY, but the rookie talent on defense is not that great since Clownie can't seem to stay healthy. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 The kids is a straight stud. It only took a yr to find Lewis' replacement. Quote
TBird Posted October 9, 2014 Author Posted October 9, 2014 That is not saying much, to be honest. Most of his tackles are far down feild, he still, as he did in college, over runs holes and has to chase down the back. Sure, he has some flash plays, but so far, he is playing as he did in college and that is not very good. I'll wait and see how he pans out over the entire season and if he can make the next few years. He may win the DPOY, but the rookie talent on defense is not that great since Clownie can't seem to stay healthy.He was called the best defensive player in the draft at that point. Casserly who gave Joe Gibbs all those SB teams said he was the steal of the draft. He's leading all d-guys in the league with tackles as the link,said and goes from side line to side line faster than anyone since Ray and thus Smurf's comment above. He also has 5 passes defensed. There's always gonna be something you don't like. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Actually Bobby Bethard did most of that. Casserly was his #2. Stuff started to fall off when Bethard left. Bobby ran the Dolphins in th elate 60's into the late 70's. When did they win in the early 70's? After he left Wash he went to SD. The Chargers got to the SB pretty fast after he got there. Quote
TBird Posted October 9, 2014 Author Posted October 9, 2014 You're right. He was an assistant first for two of their SBs but the talent sure didn't fall off when he became GM in 89. He brought in Brian Mitchell, McCardle and Brad Johnson and Wycheck to name four plus Champ Bailey years later. There's some all pros in there. In 87 during the strike he is credited with fielding the replacement team that was 3-0 when the strike ended. The movie REPLACEMENTS with Gene Hackman was made from that success. As a scout he discovered Joe Jacoby and others that became the HOGs. He was the first GM in Houston drafted 5 pro bowlers including our Owen Daniels and signed our Jamie Sharper of the Ravens. He also had his busts like Heath Schuler just like Ozzie did with Kyle Boller but some of hisall pros are still playing. FROM WIKI. Elevated to General Manager in 1989, Casserly sustained the Redskins' history of uncovering high-quality players in the later rounds of the draft.[citation needed] He used a fifth-round draft pick in 1990 to select Southwest Louisiana quarterback Brian Mitchell. Washington then converted Mitchell into a running back/kick returner, where he later joinedJim Brown as the only players in NFL history to lead the league in combined net yards four times. In 1996, Casserly plucked Auburn Universityrunning back Stephen Davis in the fourth round. Davis paced the NFC in rushing in 1999 with 1,450 yards. Casserly also drafted future Pro Bowlers in wide receiver Keenan McCardell (12th round, 1991) and tight end Frank Wycheck (sixth round, 1993). During the 1999 off-season, Casserly acquired veteran quarterback Brad Johnson who responded with a Pro Bowl season.In 1999, Sports Illustrated, Pro Football Weekly, The Sporting News and USA Today named Casserly their NFL Executive of the Year at mid-season. On draft day in 1999, Casserly acquired all of the New Orleans Saints1999 selections, plus their first and third-round picks in 2000 by swapping the Redskins' fifth selection in the first round for the Saints' 12th choice. He still managed to obtain the player that Washington wanted, selecting future Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey.Not all of Casserly's picks were good ones. A number of his selections were poor, with the most notable example being Heath Shuler, who was selected with the third overall pick in the 1994 NFL draft. Shuler had a fruitless NFL career. In 2008, ESPN rated Shuler the 4th biggest NFL Draft bust of all time.[3]Casserly's Redskins career ended after the 1999 season when he was fired by team owner Dan Snyder.[4]Houston Texans[edit]After leaving the Redskins, Casserly took on the General Manager role for the expansion Houston Texans. With the franchise's first four selections in the 2002 NFL Draft, Casserly drafted David Carr, Jabar Gaffney,Chester Pitts, and Fred Weary.During Casserly's remaining drafts for the Texans, (2003 through 2006), the Texans drafted five eventual Pro-Bowlers: Andre Johnson (WR, 2003), Jerome Mathis (KR, 2005), DeMeco Ryans (LB, 2006), Mario Williams (DE, 2006) and Owen Daniels (TE 2006). Ryans was also named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2006. Mario Williams, who many criticized for being the #1 overall pick in 2006 (behind college standouts Reggie Bush and Vince Young), made the Pro Bowl in the 2008 season.During Casserly's tenure as GM, the Texans went 4–12 in their inaugural season of 2002, then improved to 5–11 in 2003 and 7–9 in 2004 before slumping to a disappointing 2–14 record in 2005. During the 2005 season, while the Texans were 1–12, team owner Bob McNair hired former NFL coach Dan Reeves to serve as a consultant to help McNair evaluate his team.[5] After the end of the season, head coach Dom Capers was fired by McNair. Casserly was criticized for a number of personnel moves, including trading second and third round picks to the Oakland Raiders forPhillip Buchanon in 2005. Buchanon was a poor player for the Texans in 2005, and was released by the team after the first four games of the 2006 season. In a public interview, McNair criticized the trade for Buchanon, saying that the front office had not done its homework.Subsequent to the Texans' 2006 NFL Draft and after the Texans' 2-14 season, Casserly left the organization on June 1, 2006. Casserly sought a job in the National Football League front office, but was passed over for the job.[6] He was succeeded as General Manager by Rick Smith. Casserly's work with the Texans has been subject to much criticism.[7]Broadcast career[edit]In addition, Casserly has had extensive experience in radio and television for 16 years. While in Washington, he was a part of local television shows on WUSA (CBS), WJLA (ABC), WTTG (Fox) and HTS (Home Team Sports), as well as radio shows on WTOP and WJFK. In Houston, Casserly did four years of television on KTRK (ABC) and six years of radio on KILT. In the Fall of 1999, he reported three times per week on ESPN Radio and was a contributor on ESPN's show, Edge NFL Match-Up.In 2008, he was the color commentator for the Philadelphia Eagles preseason games on Eagles Television Network.Formerly, he served as an NFL insider as part of The NFL Today on CBS.Controversy with Bill Belichick[edit]At the end of the 2009 NFL season, Casserly stated that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was playing through three broken ribs. His analysis, however, was refuted by Patriots coach Bill Belichick, who stated, "Who's been wrong more than Charley Casserly since he left the Redskins? Wherever he's been, whatever he's done, his percentage is like a meteorologist...He has no relationship with this team, I'd say less than zero. He's never here, I don't know if he's ever been to a game. He's never been to a practice...at least he put his name on it and I'll put my name on it and say, like he usually is, he's 100-percent wrong."Casserly caused further controversy when he reported on CBS' NFL pregame show (October 10, 2010) that a confrontation between Tom Brady and Randy Moss occurred following New England's 38-30 victory over the Buffalo Bills, that the two had to be separated, and that this was the impetus for the trade of Moss to the Minnesota Vikings.Belichick's criticism of Casserly stemmed from a December 2006 incident where the Miami Dolphins suggested they'd received game tape that included audio of Brady. Casserly said the Patriots had been warned about their videotaping practices - "(they had a staff member) dressed in coaching attire with a video camera who was presumably videotaping the other team's signals. You can't do that. They were warned." Belichick responded that he'd been told nothing from the league about it and sarcastically asked, "Why don't you go talk to Charley Casserly? He seems to have all the answers on everything."[8]Other work[edit]Casserly is also employed by George Mason University as an executive-in-residence and instructor of sport management.[9] He also teaches classes at nearby Georgetown University.Personal life[edit]Casserly and his wife of 28 years, Beverley, have a daughter, Shannon, who graduated from American University in 2006. They currently live in Washington D.C. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 They won in 91 and quickly fell off the planet soon after. I think FA started in 93 and Bobby's players started leaving. I give Casserly no credit in the Wash success. Quote
cravnravn Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Redslurs titles were won in strike shortened seasons,they get as much credit as the 70's roided up team from western PA Quote
TBird Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 He still got a ring on his own and brought in all those all pros and other greats. You guys dont like Champ Bailey? Billick tried to bring Brad Johnson here. We would have won another SB with him and wouldn't have had those set backswith Boller. Casserly drafted BJ. I'm just saying he was a good GM and said Mosley was the steal of the draft. Quote
cravnravn Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Yes we liked champ bailey, back in the 90's Quote
cravnravn Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Mosley is the real deal, he's just like ray lewis was in 96 & 97 Edited October 10, 2014 by cravnravn Quote
tsylvester Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 He was called the best defensive player in the draft at that point. Casserly who gave Joe Gibbs all those SB teams said he was the steal of the draft. He's leading all d-guys in the league with tackles as the link,said and goes from side line to side line faster than anyone since Ray and thus Smurf's comment above. He also has 5 passes defensed. There's always gonna be something you don't like. You just like to argue, don't you...... I'll throw one of your favorite lines at you. "Do you watch the games?" Maybe we should watch a game together so I can teach you how to watch the game, not just the ball. As I said, and film will back me up, most of his tackles are down field instrad of where they should be; with in 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, as most very good line backers do for their tackles. Yes, he has shown flashes, as I said in my post, made some good plays to "flash", yes, he is a rookie. But I don't just watch the game, I study the game, college & pro. Just as he did, again, exactly as I said in my post, in college, he over runs open gaps that are his responsibility, often. Yes, he recovers at times to make the tackle, down field, but that just adds to my statement. As for not liking him, it has more to do with where he played college, Bama, a majority of their players lately, since Saban took over, are "busts"or near busts, and not just as Raven players, some due to recurrent injuries, others because of a lack of effort. He has the effort, he has talent, I question his durability long term, hope I am wrong, as I said, he has talent, tackling, he just can't cover as of yet. Four years in college, and a full training camp, pre season and five games are clearly not enough to help him learn how to cover. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Redslurs titles were won in strike shortened seasons,they get as much credit as the 70's roided up team from western PA91 was not a strike yr. He still got a ring on his own and brought in all those all pros and other greats. You guys dont like Champ Bailey? Billick tried to bring Brad Johnson here. We would have won another SB with him and wouldn't have had those set backswith Boller. Casserly drafted BJ. I'm just saying he was a good GM and said Mosley was the steal of the draft.So Casserly drafted what was an obviously great player. He didn't find diamonds in the rough. Quote
tsylvester Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Mosley is the real deal, he's just like ray lewis was in 96 & 97 No he is not old man, lay off the medimucil, Ray was a complete player when he came out, cover, tackling, instincts. Quote
TBird Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 They won in 91 and quickly fell off the planet soon after. I think FA started in 93 and Bobby's players started leaving. I give Casserly no credit in the Wash success.Bethard does. Casserly recommended the players to him just like DeCosta does to Ozzie. DeCosta even said that Taliferro was hispick having scouting him and then pimping him to Ozzie but Casserly as GM drafted Brian Mitchel, BJ, Wycheck and Champ Bailey plus Owen Daniels and others in Houston and establishedthat franchise. He also discovered Joe Jacoby of the HOGs. But you won't recognize that. Quote
TBird Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 No he is not old man, lay off the medimucil, Ray was a complete player when he came out, cover, tackling, instincts. Lay off the pot. Ray had the talent and the instincts but he always gave credit to Marvin for taking him to the next level just likethis defensive coach is taking Mosley to the next level. Ray was still learning when he was in SB 35 and becameeven greater after that. Marvin taught Ray how to read the plays that were coming. Thatswhat Mosley is learning now. Mosley has the same sideline to side speed as Ray. Ray was better droppinginto coverage but Mosley is picking that up. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Bethard does. Casserly recommended the players to him just like DeCosta does to Ozzie. DeCosta even said that Taliferro was hispick having scouting him and then pimping him to Ozzie but Casserly as GM drafted Brian Mitchel, BJ, Wycheck and Champ Bailey plus Owen Daniels and others in Houston and establishedthat franchise. He also discovered Joe Jacoby of the HOGs. But you won't recognize that.Casserly drafted a few good players. His teams have not been good under him except the one he inherited from Bobby. Quote
tsylvester Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 If you want to see a true Ray Lewis type player, and you get a chance, watch the Mississippi State game today, or look for highlights of their middle backer, he is not only outstanding, but huge- Benardrick McKinney, 6'-5" 245. He is quick, has great instincts and covers very well. a junior who I am sure will come out, his forty time will determine where he goes in the draft, but I am sure he plays faster than he will time, as many players do. Lewis played faster than he timed. An outstanding player who I am sure will have a very good career in the NFL.... Look for him today a good test for him and the Bulldogs... Some have him going in the 2nd round, right now, others, a late first. But him with Mosely and watch the defense really improve.... Yes, he needs some coaching at the next level, but what a monster... Quote
tsylvester Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Isn't that where Willis played? Not sure, might be, could be the other team just down the crooked road- Ole Miss Quote
cravnravn Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 If you want to see a true Ray Lewis type player, and you get a chance, watch the Mississippi State game today, or look for highlights of their middle backer, he is not only outstanding, but huge- Benardrick McKinney, 6'-5" 245. He is quick, has great instincts and covers very well. a junior who I am sure will come out, his forty time will determine where he goes in the draft, but I am sure he plays faster than he will time, as many players do. Lewis played faster than he timed. An outstanding player who I am sure will have a very good career in the NFL.... Look for him today a good test for him and the Bulldogs... Some have him going in the 2nd round, right now, others, a late first. But him with Mosely and watch the defense really improve.... Yes, he needs some coaching at the next level, but what a monster... How is that a ray lewis type when he was 5'10" in heels, I stood next to the freak on a couple of occasions, he played BIG but was very small, still can't believe he fell to 25 Quote
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