vmax Posted July 16, 2016 Posted July 16, 2016 Yea...and the Ravens won 3 playoff games and a Super Bowl with him.He played within his limitations, was tough as nails and a good leader.He was the perfect game manager for the 2000 Ravens. Don't turn it over, pound the ball, win field position, make 2-3 big plays a game and let the defense and special teams finish them off.They might have a second Super Bowl if they kept him. There are quarterbacks that you can't win a Super Bowl with like Vick, Dalton, Ryan, McNabb, Stafford, ...they wilt.....give it away.There are also players that really increase a team's odds of winning a Super Bowl....like January Joe. Now...once again you can only get there as a team. It's a team sport. Get the right quarterback and supporting cast and you have the trophy. Aaron Rodgers got his money....no SB since.Rthsxlsxxbrrrgrrr got his money....no SB since. Manning got his money long long ago and he had a dry spell from 2005 to the present and the Broncos won despite his terrible performance. But he has a ring like Rthsslxxbrrgrrrr for worst SB performances by a winning QB.Brees got his money....nothing since. They all needed complimentary players, solid units, great coaching and game planning....to be able to hoist a trophy.QB's are only one part of the winning formula. A big part....but they need help to look great. Quote
cravnravn Posted July 16, 2016 Posted July 16, 2016 Manning screwed Denver, big tine, that worthless piece of shit threw 9 TDs to 17 picks and took 15 mil from horseface last year, Manning was horrible is 2006 too more picks then TDs Quote
krf82 Posted July 21, 2016 Posted July 21, 2016 He has his faults, as more than only an elite few don't, but Flacco has been what more than 15-20 teams do not have. In fact, the Ravens have not had as an effective quarterback as Flacco in their history, given his record. His statistics are not as important as wins, much like players in the 2000 Defense, leave personal acclamation aside for the sake of a team win. Quote
Robjr83 Posted July 25, 2016 Posted July 25, 2016 Some factors playing into Joe's numbers that dont show up on a stat sheet 1) Oz betting on Pitta to replace Boldin2) Perriman being a bust3) Carousel at Oc4) Our horrendous secondary losing multiple 4th quarter leads5) A draft history slanted to the Defensive side 6) Monroe being a POS Quote
papasmurfbell Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 So where on this chart does it show where the WRs saved Joes bad throws. Eli and Trent above him show how bad a chart this is. Quote
tsylvester Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Some factors playing into Joe's numbers that dont show up on a stat sheet 1) Oz betting on Pitta to replace Boldin2) Perriman being a bust3) Carousel at Oc4) Our horrendous secondary losing multiple 4th quarter leads5) A draft history slanted to the Defensive side 6) Monroe being a POS BINGO! It is difficult to be accurate when receivers either cannot get open, can't run the routes properly, run the wrong route or flat out cannot catch... All of which this team, over their history, especially since Flacco, has jad issues with. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 But when he has wide open receivers and he still is inaccurate. I have seen it to many times for it not to be a trend. Quote
tsylvester Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 But when he has wide open receivers and he still is inaccurate. I have seen it to many times for it not to be a trend. Every quarterback in NFL history misses wide open receivers, for one reason or another. Pick a play, find the video, we can review why. Quote
tsylvester Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 As much as he does?How much is as much? How manyof Flacco's incomple passes are due to him missing wide open receivers? Quote
vmax Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 January Joe! Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco has never been a sought-after fantasy quarterback in his nine-year NFL career, and there will be increasing concerns with Flacco playing on a surgically repaired left knee. But this season is shaping up to be a career year for Flacco. ESPN Fantasy Projection: 4,103 yards passing, 25 touchdownsOver or under: It makes sense to predict that Flacco will have more passing yards and come close to his projected amount of touchdown passes. Last year, he was on pace for 4,465 yards passing and 22 touchdowns before suffering a season-ending knee injury in Week 11. It's not a stretch to think that Flacco will produce similar numbers in his second season with offensive coordinator Marc Trestman. This year's schedule favors Flacco as well. Fourteen of Baltimore's 16 games come against teams whose pass defense ranked in the bottom half of the NFL last season. In fact, Flacco and the Ravens face four of the league's five worst pass defenses (Philadelphia, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh and New York Giants) in 2016...http://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/29008/ravens-joe-flacco-projects-to-produce-career-numbers-based-on-schedule Quote
papasmurfbell Posted August 16, 2016 Author Posted August 16, 2016 How much is as much? How manyof Flacco's incomple passes are due to him missing wide open receivers?I never said incomplete passes. He does have those but the ones where the receiver makes huge adjustments to get the ball happen more with him than most average QBs. His lack of accuracy makes it so they can't get the yac yards that can make an ok play into a great play. Smith has been hurt by this more than most. He has been the yac king forever. January Joe! Where do the come up with thta? His OL is a question mark. His receivers are a question mark. Quote
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