John Ross wr Washington

[tsylvester]

If you get a chance, turn the Bama vs Washington game. Oh sure, Bama should roll, but keep an eye on Junior wode out John Ross. IF he comes out this year, he will go in the first round. Early eastimates have him running a 4.1 forty....

 

He is a polished receiver, not even the Ravens could mess him up.

 

Great technician whwn it comes to route running. Along with the real speed he has the jitters, quicks, he breaks anckles of would be tacklers. He has great hands and yes, he catches with them, and makes the acrobatic catch look easy.

 

5'-10", 175 pds, perfect in the slot, he is tough, also plays outside and with his quickness, he gets off the jam.

 

Now, Browning might not get a lot of time to throw, but Ross would be a great pick in the late teen range for the Ravens.

[papasmurfbell]

Just watched some vid. He reminds me of Antonio Brown.

[tsylvester]

Just watched some vid. He reminds me of Antonio Brown.

Yep, very similar. A great replacement for Smith sr, and a true jitter bug they need in the slot.

[cravnravn]

Hope Ozzie wasn't watching the Bama game cause I know he was slobbering over their defenders.

[papasmurfbell]

He looked bad yesterday. So a Bama great in Ozzie not watching the playoff game with Bama. I wonder what the odds of that are.

[tsylvester]

Saw one mock have him go to the Ravens at 16.... Doubtful.... Combine Wednesday, can't wait to see his times. Would love to see them take him, returns punts and kicks, all around great teammate...

[tsylvester]

11'-1" broadjump, 37" vertical.

 

40 in 4.22 but he came up lame. First attempt. Just cramps, apparently...

[RavenMad]

Wow, I knew he was quick but I didn't realise he was that fast. His short area quickness is amazing. He can juke you out of your shoes and with that speed give him an inch and he is gone.

[tsylvester]

Yep, love this kid. If he is there at 16 I would take him in a heart beat. But I would not trade up for him... They do need his type of quickness and speed though... A few dbs also ran sub 4.4 times....

[papasmurfbell]

I didn't realize about all the injuries. That is a big red flag.

[tsylvester]

I didn't realize about all the injuries. That is a big red flag.

He played through a torn labrum, tells you all you need to know...

[papasmurfbell]

He also has had knee surgery.

[tsylvester]

He also has had knee surgery.

And shows no sign of it at all. He plays through pain, goes full tilt, is not only fast but tough and he has great, strong hands.

[papasmurfbell]

Neither did RG3 when he got to the NFL.

[varaven45]

It sounds like a crapshoot on this guy. Nobody knows. Do you roll the dice ?

[papasmurfbell]

What has the history of this team been at drafting WRs? With a big red flag like that I think a 1st is to much.

[tsylvester]

Neither did RG3 when he got to the NFL.

Oh please, apples to oranges.

 

 

This kid is ready made, he already knows how to, and does extremely well, run every route in the tree. Great hands, not affraid to go over the middle, has the quickness to play in the slot, the speed to play on the outside.

 

Yes, if he is there at 16 you take him. This draft is deep at secondary players, 3 rounds deep.

 

There is not one inside nor outside backer worthy of picking at 16 and no offensive lineman worth a first round pick.

 

This kid is a real game changer and if Perriman ever reaches his potential, that would be a sick receiving crew.

 

As it is, Ross is likely to go in picks 10-15.

[papasmurfbell]

So if the is always injured but he catches the ball like crazy for the 5 games he is healthy that is good production.

[tsylvester]

I am not sure what you call always injured, he blew a knee out, ok. He came back perfectly healthy from it. He even played corner for a few games, one pick, two pass break ups.

 

He returned punts & kicks along with playing in the slot and outside and played half of his last season with a shoulder injury and played very well.

 

To me, that is toughness, unlike the slot guy the Ravens over drafted a few years ago , Camp, who is literally always injured to the point he can't play or practice.

 

There is a big difference there...

[papasmurfbell]

I am projecting worse case scenario. There is some real risk drafting him at 16. The Ravens have shown a poor ability to way those risks in the past.

[tsylvester]

There is no more risk with him at 16 than any other player who got hurt once or twice. As I said, Camp was always hurt in college, missed almost more games than he played every year, not Ross.

 

I agree, the biggest risk is the way the Ravens struggle to develop wide outs no matter where they draft them.

 

With that said, he is a polished receiver, has been working out with, for many years, pro players to hone his craft.

 

I doubt they take him or any wide at 16 though. I am more inclined to think they trade back, given their recent free agent moves.

[papasmurfbell]

Where was Comp drafted?

[tsylvester]

Seventh round

[papasmurfbell]

So you are equating a 1st round #16 pick to a seventh round when it comes to risk?

[tsylvester]

So you are equating a 1st round #16 pick to a seventh round when it comes to risk?

Not at all. Ross had an acl and a meniscus, yet returned to play in each of the following seasons, playing in every game and, playing exceptionally well.

 

Camp miased games in every season with nagging, gnit-picking injuries. He showed a history of missing games each season, to most scouts, indication a lack of toughness, thus his fall all but out of the draft.

 

Ross has shown none of that, proof in his toughness, if you will, in that he played the receiver and punt return positions with a torn labrum and never missed a beat.

 

Knees, once repaired, once shown to be healthy, as in Ross's case, are rarely a problem moving forward, unlike hamstrings, or high anckle sprains or turf toe, which always have reoccurring issues.

 

Yes, I would take Ross at 16, for all the reasons I have stated in this thread plus a few more...