papasmurfbell Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2018/6/11/17449458/what-if-joe-flacco-wasnt-re-signed-after-super-bowl-xlvii-tyrod-taylor Ted Ginn is tackled at the 48-yard line and the game is over, the Baltimore Ravens are Super Bowl champions! That’s the beginning of this story. SB Nation asked us all “What if?” questions, with free reign, and there’s nothing more pivotal for the Ravens than quarterback Joe Flacco.Before the Ravens won Super Bowl XLVII, both Joe Flacco and his agent, Joe Linta, and the Ravens front office couldn’t come to the final agreement. According to USA Today, the sides were only a single million dollars off from finalizing a contract. But that didn’t happen, Joe Flacco bet a $90 million deal on himself, tied the greatest TD/INT ratio in NFL history and won both the Lombardi Trophy and the Pete Rozell Trophy. The next contract, I imagine, became much more different with the hardware involved.But what if Ozzie Newsome and the Baltimore Ravens didn’t sign Joe Flacco after Super Bowl XLVII?Ozzie made up his mind before the incredible run and is confident Joe Flacco wouldn’t replicate those post-season numbers season afterward. He’s not willing to dish out a six-year/$120.6 million deal with over $50 million guaranteed. What happens?The 2013 draft was abysmal for quarterbacks, which is where I assume the team starts. They scout heavily on E.J. Manuel, Geno Smith, Mike Glennon and Matt Barkley; they find zero solutions to the problem here. They also lacked the draft capital to really trade up, though the only quarterback in the first round was the Bills surprising everybody by selecting Manuel at 16 overall. I don’t suspect Ozzie or Eric DeCosta reaching in the NFL Draft, even with Joe Flacco not becoming a Raven.Free agency is another option for the Ravens in 2013, but mercy it’s not pretty.Brian Hoyer Luke McCown Tyler Thigpen Jason Campbell Josh McCown Drew Stanton Brady Quinn Matt Moore Chase Daniel Rex GrossmanThese are the top ten names of the twenty quarterbacks who were unrestricted free agents, and none of them were worth half of Joe’s deal.They are starting to ask the questions now. They are just not progressing along to the inevitable place the questions should go. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 Tyrod should have been a hold over. There should have drafted a QB a yr or two later. Quote
tsylvester Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 After the Trent debacle, the fan base would have revolted had they not signed Joe. Tyrod would always be a year away from improving, a promise that would never come true. They would have wasted 10 years at least, in trying to find a qb. Joe is a pocket passer, who yes needs some decent receivers. The team, the front office let him down & not because of his salary cap, rather because of poor draft choices & free agent signings aalong the offensive line and at receiver. Go back to the draft the year before they won the Super Bowl until now, see how many duds they drafted, how many barely decent players they drafted; not a lot of starters, none that would start and last, on another team at those positions. 1 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 So now you put it off and now the fans have revolted anyways. The team has been mediocre for a while now and it looks like it will for sometime to be so it is going to take a while to get them back.Why would it take 10 yrs to find a new QB. There have been several in the last 5 yrs who have been drafted and been great. Also Taylor at this point it better than Joe. He was the yr after he left.Joe's cap number has been more of a hindrance than anything else. Quote
tsylvester Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Yeah, Tyrod did so well in Buffalo, which had better receivers than this team has had.. 10 years because they would have given him 5 years, only to fail, then another 5 for any rookie they brought in and there is no guarantee they draft any of the rookies who have turned out very good since 2012... 10 years... Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 They had better WRs bc Taylor was cheap. He would have been cheap here too. They would not have had to give Taylor that long a deal. He signed a 3 yr 3 mil deal in Buf. Why would the Ravens have had to go higher? Quote
tsylvester Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 The Bills drafted and devoped wide outs, they signed a few amd a few o linemen via fa, but to good deals, nothing outlandish.. There is no way of saying the Ravens would have done the same even with a small cap number for Taylor; they usually sign bad deals as we have seen and still see, especially on the offensive line. So big deal, the Ravens make, maybe 1 playoff appearence with Taylor but no way their record is much better nor would they win another ring with Taylor at qb. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 13, 2018 Author Posted June 13, 2018 But it was possible to do with Tyrod though. They proved it. Quote
tsylvester Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Huh? They did what with Tyrod? Let him sit for 3 years because he reached his peak which was less than average? He has one of the best receiving cores in the league this year, as well as a great offensive coordinator, let's see how he does now. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 13, 2018 Author Posted June 13, 2018 But proved it. He now like if the Ravens had kept him would have been a place holder until their future is ready. Clean drafted what I think is the best QBs in the class. I don't think Tyrod will be the starter in a yr. Quote
vmax Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 WHAT IF JOE FLACCO WASN'T BORN? What if he met Gandalf in the womb? Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 Then they would have made another move. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 No team. I can't pick one up bc I hate what the league is doing to the game. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Yes. It is a hard game to walk away from. Quote
tsylvester Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Yes. It is a hard game to walk away from.But it's getting easier every year. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 You think the NFL is doing a great job? Quote
GrubberRaven Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Nope, but I don't care about the soap opera shit. They've built a product that is trying to appeal to everyone and like most things in life, you can't make everyone happy...We live in a culture of negativity. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 Its OK. No need to whimper like a child. Quote
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