cmacarolle21 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 I think it's hard for us to make the claim that Flacco got ripped off for Rookie of the year. He had a worse QB rating then ryan in the playoffs and in the regular season.
ForceEight Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Seriously dude, please get over it. Or at least keep it all in one (avoidable) thread.
BCEagles Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Me Everyday leading up to the draft said: I say we draft Matt Ryan
JPPT1974 Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Well, it was a great year, and turn around for the team.
BengalBilly Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 ForceEight said: Seriously dude, please get over it. Or at least keep it all in one (avoidable) thread. He's just stating the facts.
ForceEight Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 BengalBilly said: He's just stating the facts. If I went around complaining about Carson and his poor stats this year and how they invalidate his successes, would I be in the right?
BengalBilly Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 ForceEight said: If I went around complaining about Carson and his poor stats this year and how they invalidate his successes, would I be in the right? Do what you want.
cmacarolle21 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Posted January 20, 2009 I tolerated Flacco not losing games but, he never won the game for us. He lost 2 out of the 3 Steelers games that we played including one of the biggest games in franchise history. Of course he's going to hear it he deserves it.
smokeyjon Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 You really are having one of the more impressive meltdowns I've seen recently, well done
ForceEight Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 cmacarolle21 said: I tolerated Flacco not losing games but, he never won the game for us. He lost 2 out of the 3 Steelers games that we played including one of the biggest games in franchise history. Of course he's going to hear it he deserves it. Everyone can have their frustrations, founded or not, I suppose.
yagersports Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 That seems ridiculous considering Flacco maybe just had one of the most impressive rookie seasons ever. Whew........tough crowd. What Flacco deserves is admiration for handling his rookie season like a vet.
SpearSrai Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 I can't wait to see the backlash on Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez when their teams finish 3-13 next season. Apparently rookie quarterbacks are expected to win Super Bowls now. And if they fall one game short of the big one, their fans consider the season a disappointment.
BMoreHon Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 yeah I am not getting this. I think everyone expected Flacco to be a 2 or 3 year project. Instead he stepped in and did WIN a game or two for us. How about that comeback in Cleveland? Also you got to think about the style of football Baltimore has played and will continue to play until our defense sucks; that style is run the ball, manage the game and don't make mistakes. Flacco did that and then some. Pittsburgh has an A+ defense. I am surprised he scored the points he did! Ryan was drafted with the intention of starting day one. Different expectations so you can't compare the two. I look forward to years to come. Flacco and Ryan will be the next Brady and Manning. Hopefully Flacco is Brady and Ryan is Manning...I want more Super Bowl rings than MVP awards!!!!!
ravinmaniac52 Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 Don't be to hard on the guy. Didn't we let the Super Bowl Winning QB go? He wasn't good enough!
cmacarolle21 Posted January 22, 2009 Author Posted January 22, 2009 I just think everyone is looking at how many wins we had and giving all too much credit to Flacco. We won 13 with Boller why wouldn't we be able to win 11 with an average QB with virtually the same team.
SpearSrai Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 cmacarolle21 said: I just think everyone is looking at how many wins we had and giving all too much credit to Flacco. We won 13 with Boller why wouldn't we be able to win 11 with an average QB with virtually the same team. Whoa, back up... we never, ever won 13 with Boller. He barely has 13 wins in his entire career...
dc. Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Right, McNair won those 13... almost all of them, I think he was out for a few games. Between our 12 win Super Bowl season and our 13 win 2006, I don't think we ever topped 10 wins, either.
ForceEight Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 dc. said: Right, McNair won those 13... almost all of them, I think he was out for a few games. Between our 12 win Super Bowl season and our 13 win 2006, I don't think we ever topped 10 wins, either. No, McNair started all 16 games in 2006. Boller spelled him in the 4th quarter of two of them, though. For what it's worth, Boller was 5-4 in his rookie season. Flacco was 6-3, with a markedly better team.
SpearSrai Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 dc. said: Right, McNair won those 13... almost all of them, I think he was out for a few games. Between our 12 win Super Bowl season and our 13 win 2006, I don't think we ever topped 10 wins, either. McNair started all 16 (plus a playoff game) that season... you may remember that he got injured in a few games and didn't finish, like against Carolina (which we lost...that's the one where Boller had two TD passes that were deflected into the air, then caught by Mark Clayton) You're right to say that we never won more than 10 between 2000 and 2006... 2001: 10 2002: 7 2003: 10 2004: 9 2005: 6
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