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What Grub said, honestly, JLC has been wrong more than weather forecasters. How he still has a job in radio is beyond me. As for you being right papa, Bravo, but when other fans are right and you are wrong, old buddy, you don't give them props either. In the end, we are fans, know nothing compared to coaches or execs on a team no matter how long we spend on the net.

lol. Yep. I still can't really login unless I'm using incognito. So weird. But I'm in and I'm back!

Good attitude from Lamar towards all the changes this year. Nice to know he's not a diva at quarterback. This from Brian Wacker at The Sun: "Lamar Jackson took the snap, pitched the ball to Derrick Henry and rolled the other direction. The only problem was that the play called for a naked boot action, and the quarterback was supposed to keep the ball. New offensive coordinator Declan Doyle was incredulous. “Lamar, what the f–k are you doing?” he shouted at the two-time NFL Most Valuable Player. Jackson laughed on Wednesday as he recounted the exchange, which came during Tuesday’s first day of the Ravens’ two-day mandatory minicamp in Owings Mills. “I wasn’t used to that,” Jackson said. “He was just being a coach. Nothing more, nothing less. “I love that coaching. I’m a coachable player. Sometimes he sees things that I don’t see, and sometimes I see things that he might not have thought of, and it’s great to piggyback off each other. I feel like we need that.” The moment lasted only a few seconds, but it offered a glimpse into what has become a defining theme of the Ravens’ offseason: Details matter, and a new regime means pressing new buttons the way they hadn’t been in the past. Getting the play correct is a big one, and Jackson acknowledged that one was on him. But no matter how small or tedious, the details are things coaches are obsessing over in June because they know they’ll matter in January. For Doyle, a 30-year-old first-time play caller installing a new offense, there has been little room for shortcuts. For first-year coach Jesse Minter, the message has been equally clear: If the Ravens are going to become the team they believe they can be, it will happen through precision and long before there needs to be production. “When you get in the quote-unquote big moments in a game, you sink to the level of detail and training and focus that you’re able to have,” Minter said. “You don’t all of a sudden go and do something different. “It’s how you operate, it’s how you do things. These guys have bought into that.” No detail has been considered too trivial or trite. How Jackson gathers the huddle. The exact direction his toes are pointed on a run-pass option. Where his eyes go before and after the snap. The route depth within a play call. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson runs wind sprints with teammates after practice during mandatory minicamp. (Ryan Bowie/Staff) When Doyle was formally introduced earlier this year, he described his offensive non-negotiables as physicality, detail and explosiveness. The physicality won’t truly emerge until pads come on during training camp. The other two have already become visible. This offseason has brought more than new coaches. There is a new language to learn. The terminology is different. The concepts are different. The structure is different. When the Ravens moved from offensive coordinator Greg Roman to Todd Monken before the 2023 season, there was at least some carryover in plays and verbiage. Jackson wasn’t starting from scratch. This time he is. “It’s a different system than I’m accustomed to being in,” Jackson said. “I feel like it’s going to be a lot of exposiveness going on this year because the way [Doyle] calls plays and his creativity with his mind and how detailed he is, it’s mind-blowing. I’m excited.” Jackson has been careful not to reveal much about the offense’s specifics. But he acknowledged there is significant emphasis on spacing and generating explosive plays. Just as notable has been his embrace of the process. The attention to detail has resonated with Jackson in a way that teammates and coaches have noticed. Aside from missing the first week of voluntary practices last month, Jackson has spent the offseason at the facility and has emerged as one of the program’s leaders. He has described the new coaching staff as a “breath of fresh air” and has spoken openly about the importance of being present and engaged. That level of engagement wasn’t always consistent in previous years under John Harbaugh, who had been Jackson’s only NFL coach until Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti fired him in January after a dismaying 8-9 season that ended without a playoff berth for the first time since 2021. History also suggests Jackson often thrives when everything feels new. Doyle is already his fourth offensive coordinator, and Jackson’s best seasons have frequently come during the first year or two of a coordinator’s tenure. In 2019, his first season under Roman, Jackson threw a league-high 36 touchdown passes and rushed for 1,206 yards, then an NFL record for a quarterback. The Ravens finished 14-2, and Jackson won his first NFL MVP award. Four years later, in his first season under Monken, Jackson posted a career-high 3,678 passing yards, led Baltimore to the NFL’s best record, an appearance in the AFC Championship game and captured his second MVP trophy. The following season, he threw a career-high 41 touchdown passes and finished runner-up in the MVP voting. Then came last year. The offense regressed sharply. Jackson missed four games because of injuries. Questions surfaced about the dynamic between Jackson, Harbaugh and Monken. Jackson endured one of the most difficult seasons of his career. But that was then. Related Articles Ravens’ Tyler Loop reflects on that miss in Pittsburgh: ‘Reset and reload’ 3 things we saw and heard from Ravens’ final day of mandatory minicamp Ravens’ Calais Campbell enters likely final season still loving the game Josh Tolentino: Maybe Mike Green is on to something with Ravens’ new staff | COMMENTARY 5 things we saw and heard from Ravens’ first day of mandatory minicamp “There’s no one I’d rather have as the quarterback, the leader of this team,” Minter said. “He’s been everything.” Optimism is abundant across the NFL this time of year, the product of new staffs and new systems. Yet there is a noticeable energy around Baltimore’s offense, fueled in large part by how quickly Jackson has connected with Doyle’s approach. “I’m being challenged right now,” Jackson said. “This system is different. It’s all Dec. I feel like everybody’s hands-on. We dialed in.” That includes Jackson, the player around whom the entire operation revolves. “I wanna be detailed as well, keep the defense honest,” Jackson said. “We doing everything right, the little things right. Defense don’t know what we’re doing, what we’re capable of on offense any given play. “With the type of coaching Declan is bringing, the sky’s the limit.”"

Will never forget that play or the Mile High Miracle!

Right 'tis just practice but he looks fluid with good hands. Anxious to see him up against some competition. Only 9 weeks until August pre-season games.

Well, they all looked locked in and not bored, for sure. Did see some really nice pattern runs. Flowers can cut so quick, it's unreal.

Depending on how far back we want to go, the Colts-Bills game in 1975 when Bert Jones had his breakout game is one I'll always remember. We were down 28-7 to OJ and the Bills before Jones came storming back to win the game. We were 1-4 at the time and with that victory we reeled off 9 straight wins to take the division title.

Interesting reading on our ease of schedule. A break for the new coaches and schemes: https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/ravens-schedule-release-biggest-winners-late-for-work-ota-storylines-top-games

I heard that on the way home.

No. You do that to get over the top. We are not at that place.

If they drop completely out of round 1, I think they lose the opportunity to get a 5th year option on a round 1 choice. Not necessarily disabling, but should be taken into account.

The injuries went up the moment the players negotiated softer practice schedules.

Happy Easter to you too... Maybe the Easter Bunny will bring us some interior linemen in the draft.

I see now we are posting in verse, I just hope the new coach makes us better, not worse. We have to allow him some time to settle in Before we will know if with our team he can win. I find that posting like this is too hard to do So I will just sign off without further ado.

My biggest problem with him is his thinking he can bring the best out of anyone and, make them better. Whether it was an injured player who had very little success in college but has all of the measurable, or coaches past their prime, or have little to no experience. It caught up to him last year, no depth, tight cap, poor performance, regression un some cases. I look forward to seeing how this new coaching staff, works. Good or bad, the change was needed, much like when Billick's time was up

I don’t think this yr is the issue. Yr 3 and further is my worry. I don’t want to trade for a guy who could be lame in a couple yrs.

Better than Falaffle

You're special papa, I don't think anyone else in the world saw every player along the offensive line regress, but you.

I just found out that WBAL-TV is streaming this on their website tomorrow rather than broadcasting it like I thought. So, if you're interested in seeing it, fire up your internet tomorrow at 11:30am and go to their website. I'm guessing that maybe the Ravens website might have it too.

How true. Best not to get too full of ourselves because of our limited knowledge. For the most part, all we can really do is speculate, which is 'fun' but not always factual. Now that a choice has been made, let's give Minter at least a year to get the team on his wavelength. I wanted Kubiak or Denver's DC but that didn't happen. I think Minter has just as much potential as either of them.

By the way, just read that a 'source' says Kliff is 'not high on Minter's list of potential OCs'. Take that for what it's worth.

Do you recall yrs ago I said he had outsized control over the roster. There has to be a reason we kept grabbing Jim’s broken toys Al, the time.

I agree, very good owner, inviting Lamar to sit in on the interviews, great sense of humor. His passion for the team came through loud and clear. A great watch/listen

I thought that was a pretty refreshing conference. I think we're lucky to have Steve as our owner

If that is an answer to my question we have a winner.

Like the quarterback that sets a franchise up for 5+ years of success or turmoil for 5 years. A new head coach, all new assistants, training staff, in game adjustments, clock management, could set this team up or destroy it. When Billick was fired, the same "fear", consternation, gripped players, fans alike. While Harbs had his issues, a bottomless pit of a dog house, in game management, he also brought us what 6, 7 division titles, and couple of conference championship games, several ending in heartbreaking fashion, two missed field goals, a dropped/fumbled touchdown/two point conversion. A miraculous last second 70+ yard bomb to win and go to a Super Bowl, which they won, despite a huge power "failure" just after half time. Yes, Harbs had his issues, most if not all coaches do, but hopefully the next head coach is at least as winning as Harbs.

Curious to see, providing Eric stays, how his draft picks change, was Harbs behind drafting those injured draft duds? Will the Ravens change how they prioritize picks?

Wonder what deacon jones whould have if they kept the stat.

https://www.audacy.com/stations/1057thefan/shows/inside-access-cceaf/episodes/c9f3c5b5b2cc the first 15 mins have some shocking stats.

It is put up or shut up time for the Ravens. Oh, they are saying the right things simce their five game winning streak came to a crashing end at the hand of the dismal Bengals. The problem is, they have been saying the same things all season and the results are always the same. From the abismal play of the offensive line where on one play they open a gaping hole for Henry to run untouched for 20 yards, only for him to be tackled for a loss the very next play. Or maybe the time they give to Lamar who stands back there and threads a pass 20 yards down field between two defenders, only for him to be sacked on the very next play, as soon as he receives the snap. Well, it isn't just the line, Lamar has not been consistent either. He fails to secure the ball when fleeing the oncoming rush, leading to a sack fumble as he cannot seem to decide to take off and run, or throw the ball. But wait, the recievers are also a culprit in this inconsistent offense, to out it mildly. They fail to gain seperation in a timely manner and drop passes that are perfectly thrown. To make a long story short, the defense is also inconsistent, so which team takes the field against a hated division rival in a game that will likely lead to either the Ravens winning the division or the Steelers. So, who ya got?

That was a pathetic game on both sides. Neither team wanted to win.

Let's consider our current problem. We have an injured QB with declining running skills but competent passing skills at worst. We have an O-line that could use a massive infusion of new talent. We have an aging RB who seems to have both lost a step and who is suffering from the O-line's inability to create holes. Our receivers are damned good. The D is already a work in progress with a good secondary but with limited talent at LB and D-line. Finally, our franchise QB is about to hit the last 2 years of his contract with a massive cap hit unless it's re-worked or he's traded or he realizes the effect that the 2 years big outlay keeps the team from improving and thus renegotiates his contract. I'd say the optimal solution is to get Lamar to stay here with a renegotiated deal/extension. The trick here is that he needs to be agreeable to that goal. If he is not, then we have to hope we can trade him. Whether he stays or goes we still need a lot of resources poured into the O-line and D-line pass rush. We won't be able to do that quickly if he stays unless he gets a new more cap friendly contract. No new contract means the team will just wilt away and die over the next 2 years. If Lamar stays with a more cap friendly contract, we can actively go about re-doing the O-line and D-line/pass rush and stay competitive for several more seasons. If he leaves we've got to find a new franchise QB and as Tsyl points out, that could be a long and frustrating task. And we still have to re-build the O-line and D-line/pass rush anyway. So the key to me is, does Lamar, and his Mom, really want to put us in cap hell and be a losing team for the next 2+ years? Or, does he sign up for lower cap hits and we can start grooving again sooner? The answer to that is all in Lamar and his Mom's hands.

I'm OK. Thanks for asking. Just been taking a break from dealing with how this team wins so ugh-ly for the last 5 games. I can only stand to read/talk about them so much because they look like they're a lost team. No emotion or energy from either the players or coaching staff. I can only blame Harbs but my better half says his wife is ill though I haven't been able to confirm that. I also think Lamar's banged up body coupled with the lousy O-line play makes the offense, well, offensive.

It was hostler. Thank you

Guards, Bullock and Jones, already on the team, question marks? Sure, but all indications are they can be really good. Why neither has seen the field is anyone's guess. Same reason maybe why Cleveland, who has shown he can be a real good guard & or center; Harbs/oc coach. Smith at mlb may be slowing but he still one of the better ones. Weak side backer yes, maybe Buchanan, but Im not sold on him. Still, the draft can help there. Left tackle, draft, some good ones in this comimg draft lower in the round, even better ones in the 27 draft which is expected to be one of the best drafts in a while. You forget, this same team, minus a player or two, had one of the top offenses in the league last year. The only major change was at guard, one guard spot. Wven with the weak play of Faalele, I might add. The biggest issue I surmise is the ol coach. Last year he said he wouldnt change much when he took over early in the season. But this year clearly he has changed something because it is no longer a top running line, nor pass protecting. The offense as a result, no longer tops in the league. Sure, the injury to Lamar missing 3 games didnt help. But aside from the Bills game, they cant or haven't run consistently nor extended drives. Remember last yesr they lead the league in 90+ yard drives. So not so far away, change the ol coach

The same thought occurred to me.

Well, he's been injured for 22 games over the last 2 years and has only 3 sacks so far this year, so I dunno.

They are still in striking distance. Get those adjustments made.

At least the defense mostly showed up today.

I have issues with him. But I questions Turdy's outsized influence on personnel. I have seen to many harbaugh nepo fixer upper picks. That is all John. That screams he has huge influence on who is brought in. The scouts have been undermined.

Monk is a class act.

Let’s trade a coach.

Jones back...Stanley and Washington still out

No no no. Then you lose a shootout with Lamar, the goal is to keep Lamar off the field with the run. It also exhausts the d. In the 2nd half go play action for the kill.

I still would rather they go back to the 'old days' ruling that you can't help a ball carrier go forward by pushing or pulling. I've seen some teams now pushing the pile ahead when it's not even 3rd or 4th and short. It's getting out of hand.

Agree about Rush. I'm pulling for him. Yeah, I saw the Starks /Mosley article. Actually, I'm hoping Starks is better than Mosely.

A nice little write up and slide show for camp thus far https://www.wbaltv.com/article/10-developing-storylines-second-week-ravens-training-camp/65566468

I know I'm really looking forward to it. I'm ready for some football!

Here it is, official: https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/mike-green-rookie-contract-ravens-second-round-pick-2025. Good...one last distraction.