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What Grub said, honestly, JLC has been wrong more than weather forecasters. How he still has a job in radio is beyond me. As for you being right papa, Bravo, but when other fans are right and you are wrong, old buddy, you don't give them props either. In the end, we are fans, know nothing compared to coaches or execs on a team no matter how long we spend on the net.

lol. Yep. I still can't really login unless I'm using incognito. So weird. But I'm in and I'm back!

I heard that on the way home.

Actually, I can't even remember Issac making a play but then, my memory ain't what it used to be.

I like it...reminds of the days of 'screaming like a banshee when you enter the Lions den with a spear!'

Minter sounds pumped up and now so do I. Can't wait until the pads come on with the vets present.

Me too!

No. You do that to get over the top. We are not at that place.

If they drop completely out of round 1, I think they lose the opportunity to get a 5th year option on a round 1 choice. Not necessarily disabling, but should be taken into account.

The injuries went up the moment the players negotiated softer practice schedules.

I'm just imagining all the people 'flocking' to the stores and websites to buy, buy, buy!

I see now we are posting in verse, I just hope the new coach makes us better, not worse. We have to allow him some time to settle in Before we will know if with our team he can win. I find that posting like this is too hard to do So I will just sign off without further ado.

Well, pretty much as expected. I still don't like the kickoff from 50 yard line rule.

My biggest problem with him is his thinking he can bring the best out of anyone and, make them better. Whether it was an injured player who had very little success in college but has all of the measurable, or coaches past their prime, or have little to no experience. It caught up to him last year, no depth, tight cap, poor performance, regression un some cases. I look forward to seeing how this new coaching staff, works. Good or bad, the change was needed, much like when Billick's time was up

That is mostly on coaching and skill, more so than on talent. When stunts happen, some coaches teach to hand the defender off, block an area. Others say, stay with him and wash him down. Proper foot technique and hand placement help and are far more critical than power & quickness. This is where I think the line last year, fell down. The big fella never could get his feet nor hand placement right. He almost always looked lost on stunts, unsure who to block. I remember one play he actually chased the defender around Lindy, Vorhees and Lindy also struggled at times with this. One time they would hand the defender off, but one of them would not pick up the block. Middle blitzes were the worst, Lindy would have no one to block so he would help out one of the guards. Then the middle backer would blitz; every pass play. Lindy was always late in seeing it and never, ready through the game thread, never picked up the blitzes. All he had to do was fake a help block, get the backer to blitz and block him. But no, never, Lamar sacked or forced out to the defensive end, throw the ball away. I'm not sure what was worse, Lindy not picking up on this or the coaches not correcting him. You can teach technique, foot work, hand placement, so a natural power blocker is better. The big fellas problem was that they built the line to be zone blocking, quick. He was quick but too big for that, teams picked up on it and exploited him. Another head scratcher, why the coaches left him in, knowing, on film, what we all saw each game. Same for Lindy, not a power guy, so why would you use power plays against strong defensive line teams? Except to use their power against them, and slide block; pretty easy, if it is taught correctly, which, as we saw, was not. Lindy could slip those power defenders, get them off balance, but not when both guards are blocking a different way. As you see, it all goes back to the coaching, yard know, how other teams replace 3 offensive linemen in game, and don't give up sacks? Coaching, never saw that here last year, no changes, a line that went garbage after the year before when everything worked.. The Biscuit saw it, knew it, fired Harbs not because of Monken, in my opinion, but because of the line coach and defensive coordinator, whom Harbs refused to change.

That's what I'm driving at.

That's a great story. Appreciate you sharing it. In a world where people hoard money and seem to never be at peace, reading things like this bring back some humanity. Barry is still a millionaire and able to enjoy his elder years I'm assuming. Honestly, Lamar comes from poverty and he'll never worry about it again, as long as he saves/spends it right. Maybe he achieved his goals. I think he still wants a ring, but not here.

That would have been hard to swallow especially since we need O line help.

I'd rather have the two picks and an older Trey Henderson. I don't think he's as dominating as Crosby but he's pretty damned good. As for last year's production, papa is probably right. Trey and the Bengals management couldn't agree on a contract and wouldn't trade him. They forced that situation. Does his age concern me? Yes but even if we get just one or two good years out of him we get to keep our first round picks. You don't trade two firsts for anything less than a shot at a franchise quarterback in my opinion. This was a good rebound deal.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JnW1VCP5xgc?si=MiqpkiA_q_1_j14W

Good post. Got to hear from all the guys I wanted to for now.

How true. Best not to get too full of ourselves because of our limited knowledge. For the most part, all we can really do is speculate, which is 'fun' but not always factual. Now that a choice has been made, let's give Minter at least a year to get the team on his wavelength. I wanted Kubiak or Denver's DC but that didn't happen. I think Minter has just as much potential as either of them.

By the way, just read that a 'source' says Kliff is 'not high on Minter's list of potential OCs'. Take that for what it's worth.

Do you recall yrs ago I said he had outsized control over the roster. There has to be a reason we kept grabbing Jim’s broken toys Al, the time.

Read an article in Sports Illustrated about the new deal Harbs signed. Aside from for $100 mil deal, wowza, the author pointed out that he will have virtually the same "power over the roster that he had in Baltimore", Hmmm, maybe Eric is not to blame for the lame draft picks afterall

I thought that was a pretty refreshing conference. I think we're lucky to have Steve as our owner

If that is an answer to my question we have a winner.

Like the quarterback that sets a franchise up for 5+ years of success or turmoil for 5 years. A new head coach, all new assistants, training staff, in game adjustments, clock management, could set this team up or destroy it. When Billick was fired, the same "fear", consternation, gripped players, fans alike. While Harbs had his issues, a bottomless pit of a dog house, in game management, he also brought us what 6, 7 division titles, and couple of conference championship games, several ending in heartbreaking fashion, two missed field goals, a dropped/fumbled touchdown/two point conversion. A miraculous last second 70+ yard bomb to win and go to a Super Bowl, which they won, despite a huge power "failure" just after half time. Yes, Harbs had his issues, most if not all coaches do, but hopefully the next head coach is at least as winning as Harbs.

Curious to see, providing Eric stays, how his draft picks change, was Harbs behind drafting those injured draft duds? Will the Ravens change how they prioritize picks?

Wonder what deacon jones whould have if they kept the stat.

I'd hate to see Monken go. I don't think he is the problem. And, not to add fuel to the fire, but I thought Harbaugh threw Monken under the bus several weeks ago during the 1-5 run and I didn't like it. I got the impression Harbs was saying it was the offensive coaches fault that the offense was having such a difficult time. It pissed me off at the time especially since wtf gives a guy with only a special teams background the balls to dump on his OC when that OC had created the best offense this franchise has had in all of its existence? I really thought it was a cheap shot and showed a lack of class by Harbs. Accountability is just a word to him.

The Ravens are currently pretty sickening to watch. I have to think it's time to take stock as you said and see what is needed to turn the team around. In my estimation, they need a new LT (I think Stanley is gone), RT(Rosengarten is mediocre at best), LG, RG, and, if Linderbaum leaves, a new C. They don't need any additional skill players at this point. On defense, I'd say they need 2 pass rushers, and I don't mean injured guys trying to make a comeback or old retreads. And I don't mean guys having a great year from lower rated colleges. I think it's impossible to do all this in one off-season. They need at least 2. Interestingly, that's the time Lamar's contract will end unless he renegotiates. Take that for what it's worth, but it could very well mean we need a new franchise QB in 2028. Preferably, a pocket passer who's mobile and not a mobile passer who needs training as a pocket passer. So that's pretty much a major teardown and rebuild. Oh, and let's not forget, we need a new coaching staff. What we fans will need: some patience. This won't result in a sudden, major turnaround.

It is put up or shut up time for the Ravens. Oh, they are saying the right things simce their five game winning streak came to a crashing end at the hand of the dismal Bengals. The problem is, they have been saying the same things all season and the results are always the same. From the abismal play of the offensive line where on one play they open a gaping hole for Henry to run untouched for 20 yards, only for him to be tackled for a loss the very next play. Or maybe the time they give to Lamar who stands back there and threads a pass 20 yards down field between two defenders, only for him to be sacked on the very next play, as soon as he receives the snap. Well, it isn't just the line, Lamar has not been consistent either. He fails to secure the ball when fleeing the oncoming rush, leading to a sack fumble as he cannot seem to decide to take off and run, or throw the ball. But wait, the recievers are also a culprit in this inconsistent offense, to out it mildly. They fail to gain seperation in a timely manner and drop passes that are perfectly thrown. To make a long story short, the defense is also inconsistent, so which team takes the field against a hated division rival in a game that will likely lead to either the Ravens winning the division or the Steelers. So, who ya got?

I'm OK. Thanks for asking. Just been taking a break from dealing with how this team wins so ugh-ly for the last 5 games. I can only stand to read/talk about them so much because they look like they're a lost team. No emotion or energy from either the players or coaching staff. I can only blame Harbs but my better half says his wife is ill though I haven't been able to confirm that. I also think Lamar's banged up body coupled with the lousy O-line play makes the offense, well, offensive.

It was hostler. Thank you

The same thought occurred to me.

Well, he's been injured for 22 games over the last 2 years and has only 3 sacks so far this year, so I dunno.

They are still in striking distance. Get those adjustments made.

At least the defense mostly showed up today.

I don’t think he is leaving now at all. Feinbaum and co made this a media issue. The agent would have said jump or not. This kid will make more in nil in school than dropping out of the 1st.

Joe getting hurt made the call for him. Like I have said along for the ride. No decisions that make the team win or lose.

Let’s trade a coach.

No no no. Then you lose a shootout with Lamar, the goal is to keep Lamar off the field with the run. It also exhausts the d. In the 2nd half go play action for the kill.

No d will be l8ke the 2000 team. The rules are so different now.

I still would rather they go back to the 'old days' ruling that you can't help a ball carrier go forward by pushing or pulling. I've seen some teams now pushing the pile ahead when it's not even 3rd or 4th and short. It's getting out of hand.

A nice little write up and slide show for camp thus far https://www.wbaltv.com/article/10-developing-storylines-second-week-ravens-training-camp/65566468

I know I'm really looking forward to it. I'm ready for some football!

Here it is, official: https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/mike-green-rookie-contract-ravens-second-round-pick-2025. Good...one last distraction.

If I were the team I’m bring catering with me.for just that reason.