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Bye Lamar. He is 1-3 in the playoffs and didn't bother to travel with the team for their playoff game. Maybe help guide the starting quarterback in his place, talk him up, be a leader. But, he wants to be the highest paid QB in the league. Maybe when he puts up the numbers, wins, accuracy, and reliability as Mahomes or Allen. Hell, Joe Burrow has more playoff wins.

This time of year makes me sad. I really miss the drive up to McDaniel College to watch training camp practices and grabbing lunch with you guys afterward as we discuss what we saw. Good times gone by.

All I can keep thinking is: "I hope we can keep him here". This is a guy you can build a defense around that will last years.

He can ctach passes from Lamar all he wants, in the off season. But when the season starts, he can catch fish in the Seattle fish markets..

What Grub said, honestly, JLC has been wrong more than weather forecasters. How he still has a job in radio is beyond me. As for you being right papa, Bravo, but when other fans are right and you are wrong, old buddy, you don't give them props either. In the end, we are fans, know nothing compared to coaches or execs on a team no matter how long we spend on the net.

lol. Yep. I still can't really login unless I'm using incognito. So weird. But I'm in and I'm back!

And of course it happens when I watch! I'm watching Grumpier Old Men now. Appropriate.

My mom is downstairs clapping. Touchdown?

Tsy. No place in this game for these kind of players. Just remember - those who exalt themselves will be humbled. Believe that !

Send me a message if things break.

Agreed the hangover extends into London or the team consumes some bad fish and chips . Either way, we don’t show up but even if we miraculously make it close, bad Lamar shows up, Harbaugh easily gets out coached by Vrabel, and we come home 3-3. Oh and Harbaugh throws another coach or player under the bus and explains how they’ll look at the film and get better. Book it !

It is far worse than I even thought. I have been going back and forth with a dumbass. He thinks turdy is a great coach. I said he has been along for the ride and anything good that has happened to this team has been done despite him. So onto the research.

Number 4 & 35 this year, plus a 1 next year works for me

Could be a reality check for him. If we end up with two 1sts, atleast we may not be in cap hell for the foreseeable future

Im liking this one.

This team is fizzling; reminds me of the end of the Billick era in circa 2006-7. The message is stale, there's little team character, chemistry and or substance. I think the right package - coach, OC & QB - can and should improve this teams lot. We might slide a year (2 yrs max), but Id rather do that then watch a very slow, painful bleed job.

Lamar sealed his own fait, 2 victories without him, Biscuit will Not give him 250 mil guaranteed

This line is actually better, much better than they played yesterday. They just had a very bad game, injuries caught up to them. We knee the rookie mountain would struggle with fast, small defensive ends. A good coach sees this and adjusts, and Roman did not adjust. Even the receivers are good enough, but using them properly, using routes designed to beat zones, get people open is the key. Roman does none of these things. As I said, this offense has gotten worse as the season has progressed, it is not as if the defenses have gotten better, quite the opposite in fact. Yes, the evidence is clear, even Harbs, the Biscuit have to see it, Roman has to go. Defenses are keeping their safeties with in 15 yards of the los, linebackers within 8. That makes it very difficult to run consistently. Before yesterday they would have to blitz to beat this offensive line, even then, the pass blocking held. The issue with the passing game was either poor route combos, or a qb who could not throw on time because he was confused, or could not throw accurately, leaving no yak. We saw proof of that at times yesterday. Huntley got the ball out quickly, timely, and accurately to provide yak. Is he the end all, certainly not. But he deserves a chance to show that this offense can score. You look at other games, Goff for crying out loud put up yards and points. Offenses see safeties 15 yards deep, linebackers 10, making it easier to not just run the ball, but have space for underneath routes, for yak. So that when there is a 5 yard pass, the receiver doesn't have 5 guys tackling him right away. The line will be fine, but they need help getting those back 7 to back off, it's all Roman.

For whatever reason, we don’t play well against Jax- cant get that monkey off our backs. The D laid an egg in the 4th Q but it shouldn’t have come down to that. We should have been up 14-0 instead of 6-0 then let a weaker opponent stick around and come back. I think it’s safe to say we’ve seen Lamar’s ceiling. This team has a dysfunctional offense and has for the past four years. There’s no way we offer him a long term deal. This team in its current form has no chance to advance in the playoffs, even IF it makes it that far. And that stinks. We need to build the rest of the offense around the QB and prepare for a legit franchise QB, maybe in 23; much more likely in 24. Until we get that, we’re going to see exactly what we saw today against the bad teams and big time struggle against the winning teams. My two cents…

Here, as an apology for my negativity, enjoy these rookies being ridiculous

Tag and trade him gets you there.

Thank you so much for this place, for all that you do, you are truly an amazing person.

I still have a football from the Denver playoff game Femi tossed to me. Funny story; A friend had an extra ticket, his wife couldn't make so he, I and his 8 year old son went. At half time, I head up to get a hot cocoa, Femi, who had broken his foot earlier in the season, was in line in front of me. We started up a conversation about the game, how well it was going. Then I said with a smirk, half joking; hey, if you get a chance toss me a ball, I'm sitting right behind the bench. He laughed, played along and said sure. Late in the 4th with game out of hand, Femi came within ear shot. I yelled to him, there was a ball under the bench right behind him. He picks it up and tosses it to me...

Burrows is a narcissistic SOB and I don’t want him as the face of my team. I’ll take Lamar any day.

Burrows can take his cigar smoking act and shove it up his ass.

The players clearly loved Wink, were a bit shocked by this move, this should be interesting. The wrong move now could end the Harbs regime...

Huntley should be the starter. Sit Jackson let him heal till the contract or trade him for picks. Papa has been right about harbaugh all along. He’s a motivational speaker at best and has very little football savy whatsoever. IMHO I’m not reacting to the game outcome either. It has been obvious to me for years.

Good on Huntley. He did prety well. Give him the practice snaps this week.

Why doest every parking lot in this country have solar panels in them that we park under. I just recently saw a vid on a technology they are about to use in the UK. They are going to add little vertical wind turbines to the light poles on the highways and as cars go by the wind off them turn the turbine. That is in addition to a windy day. Each one would power a few houses for a yr by the estimates. We have a lot of highway miles with probably millions of lights on them,

Can the backup kicker hang out in est bmore in the middle of the night in a few weeks?

I just found out that WBAL-TV is streaming this on their website tomorrow rather than broadcasting it like I thought. So, if you're interested in seeing it, fire up your internet tomorrow at 11:30am and go to their website. I'm guessing that maybe the Ravens website might have it too.

By the way, just read that a 'source' says Kliff is 'not high on Minter's list of potential OCs'. Take that for what it's worth.

A half-assed result. What's a fine and letter worth to the team that commits the foul: peanuts. Either keep the damned thing or ban it by penalty.

Well, they, the league, clearly had words for the officials at half time to keep the game close. Telling them to start calling the holding penalties on the Cheifs in the 2nd half. What, you think the most penalized lines in the league didn't hold in the first half, only the 2nd? Hmmmm

Just saw where Dobbins is out for the season with an Achilles tear. Sad.

I'm excited to see the Monken offense for sure. My optimism is tempered by how good or not good the defense is until Humphrey comes back and also the weather. I know thunderstorms can cause a delay in play or even a rescheduling if lightening is a factor. It would be great to see if the Ravens can mount any kind of pressure from Ojabo or Oweh.

I'd be curious to know how many snaps Oweh and Ojaba had. I didn't hear their names mentioned at all. By the way, I was disappointed in the play-by-play guys...seemed they always were talking up the Commanders.

I know we don't get the participation over here that we used to get. But I just browsed a few other message boards, wow, what junk. From the look, to number of duplicate threads, the infighting, wowza I don't miss that. On one board there are 16 different threads on Lamar, are you kidding me? I know he is a hot topic right now, but that many threads all saying the same thing? His contract demands, his injury, his talent level passing.... Some even talk about his off the field activities, rumors they are spouting as truth, as if they even remotely know the truth. Thanks Dee, for a great looking site, thank you to those who keep coming back to talk foootball, our Ravens, in an adult manner. Thanks Max for keeping us young. Now back to the game tonight, as I have an early morning, I will not be watching it all tonight, a full night sleep is more important and recording is so much easier in today's world...

Thanks for posting 1 alternative. It's easy to complain but way harder to suggest an improvement.

While I think we need Lamar right now, I think Tsyl is reading the future accurately. There is a lot of college qb talent coming out over the next 2 years at least that is going to be a golden age of quarterbacks. They can make all the throws and be mobile enough to either move around in the pocket or in other cases be able to take off and run. Lamar could be expendable as soon as next year or the year after.

You are a full possession behind.

Then what? You still have not answered my question, just keep drafting qbs, ditch them after their 5th year so as to not pay huge salary? The days of winning a Super Bowl with a budget qb are just about over, eventually you are going to have to pay one big time money. Lamar is learning to throw from the pocket, trying to increase or at least prove he is worth the money. That takes some time, not just from an accuracy stand point, took Allen a couple of years. But also from a cerebral stand point, reading defenses pre & post snap. He never learned that in college because he was taught to throw to an open area, read where the open area would be. Reading a man vs zone is easy, but what about man to one side, man underneath, which type of zone are they in? Now that takes some time if you have never had to process those coverages. In the mean time, we win some, we lose some. Again, as long as he is learning we have to deal with it, no different than your way, going with a rookie every three to five years. The biggest issue is the patterns, the route combinations Roman uses, that don't, aren't all that conducive to getting people open unless it is a zone coverage. Even then, he uses the same ones throughout the game, in the redzone, so defenses are ready for them later in the game or once the offense reaches the other side of the 50.... It's time this team got with the times, get a real passing game, a real offensive minded coach. Anyone can run the ball with a good line and back to match. But passing concepts are a whole different scenario

Alarming fact: Jeff Zrebiec • — Today at 8:51 AM Ravens defense has gotten much of the criticism for the 4th quarter meltdowns and deservedly so. Offense plenty culpable, too. Ravens have had 15 full 4th quarter drives. They've either thrown INTs or fumbled on 6 of them. And they've turned ball over on downs once My random thoughts: 2 turnovers and 10 penalties will get you a loss on the road almost every time. Peters and Humphrey seem a step slower. That's a concern. Tackling has been an issue. it was better yesterday. The Ravens got away from running the ball in the 2nd half and the Giants didn't. They played "Raven Ball" and won ugly. The Ravens run out of gas in the 4th quarter. On the passing attack: Lamar completed 53% of his passes. Not good. He missed wide open receivers for TD's. Make 1 of those and Ravens win. Andrews bails him out with some spectacular catches every game. Balls that are "in the neighborhood." Duverney too. There was some drops. There were 17 receptions on 32 targets for 210 yards and 1 TD. 12.4ypp. He hit 7 receivers. I'm giving myself today to work this loss off and then I'll move onto the upcoming Browns game tomorrow. As bad a yesterday was there a lot of good too. 4 sacks. 6 tackles for a loss. 5 QB hits. They held Barkley to 3.8 ypc. Travis Jones and Madubuike had awesome games. Kenyon Drake! 10 carries, 119 yards! 11.9 ypc! Why didn't the Ravens simply run over a Giants defense who were powerless against the run!? The Ravens receivers were open. Lamar couldn't get them the ball. I'm mainly disappointed. Campbell, Travis Jones, Madubuke, and Queen on defense had good games. Duverney had 1 catch on 5 targets. That hurt. Finally, and once again: 2 turnovers and 10 penalties will get you a loss on the road almost every time.

I think Likely, now that he has some real games under his belt & gotten used to the speed of the NFL, will have a big day. Wink won't let Andrews beat them, so Likely should get a lot of chances especially with Bateman out again.

You don't have to be an asshole to be a winner.

Psl's the biggest ripoff aloud by law....

Here’s hoping Lamar and the boys have fun and a smile on their faces today