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Bye Lamar. He is 1-3 in the playoffs and didn't bother to travel with the team for their playoff game. Maybe help guide the starting quarterback in his place, talk him up, be a leader. But, he wants to be the highest paid QB in the league. Maybe when he puts up the numbers, wins, accuracy, and reliability as Mahomes or Allen. Hell, Joe Burrow has more playoff wins.

This time of year makes me sad. I really miss the drive up to McDaniel College to watch training camp practices and grabbing lunch with you guys afterward as we discuss what we saw. Good times gone by.

All I can keep thinking is: "I hope we can keep him here". This is a guy you can build a defense around that will last years.

He can ctach passes from Lamar all he wants, in the off season. But when the season starts, he can catch fish in the Seattle fish markets..

2nd game...breathe...yeesh

What Grub said, honestly, JLC has been wrong more than weather forecasters. How he still has a job in radio is beyond me. As for you being right papa, Bravo, but when other fans are right and you are wrong, old buddy, you don't give them props either. In the end, we are fans, know nothing compared to coaches or execs on a team no matter how long we spend on the net.

lol. Yep. I still can't really login unless I'm using incognito. So weird. But I'm in and I'm back!

And of course it happens when I watch! I'm watching Grumpier Old Men now. Appropriate.

My mom is downstairs clapping. Touchdown?

Tsy. No place in this game for these kind of players. Just remember - those who exalt themselves will be humbled. Believe that !

Send me a message if things break.

Agreed the hangover extends into London or the team consumes some bad fish and chips . Either way, we don’t show up but even if we miraculously make it close, bad Lamar shows up, Harbaugh easily gets out coached by Vrabel, and we come home 3-3. Oh and Harbaugh throws another coach or player under the bus and explains how they’ll look at the film and get better. Book it !

It is far worse than I even thought. I have been going back and forth with a dumbass. He thinks turdy is a great coach. I said he has been along for the ride and anything good that has happened to this team has been done despite him. So onto the research.

Number 4 & 35 this year, plus a 1 next year works for me

Could be a reality check for him. If we end up with two 1sts, atleast we may not be in cap hell for the foreseeable future

Im liking this one.

This team is fizzling; reminds me of the end of the Billick era in circa 2006-7. The message is stale, there's little team character, chemistry and or substance. I think the right package - coach, OC & QB - can and should improve this teams lot. We might slide a year (2 yrs max), but Id rather do that then watch a very slow, painful bleed job.

Lamar sealed his own fait, 2 victories without him, Biscuit will Not give him 250 mil guaranteed

This line is actually better, much better than they played yesterday. They just had a very bad game, injuries caught up to them. We knee the rookie mountain would struggle with fast, small defensive ends. A good coach sees this and adjusts, and Roman did not adjust. Even the receivers are good enough, but using them properly, using routes designed to beat zones, get people open is the key. Roman does none of these things. As I said, this offense has gotten worse as the season has progressed, it is not as if the defenses have gotten better, quite the opposite in fact. Yes, the evidence is clear, even Harbs, the Biscuit have to see it, Roman has to go. Defenses are keeping their safeties with in 15 yards of the los, linebackers within 8. That makes it very difficult to run consistently. Before yesterday they would have to blitz to beat this offensive line, even then, the pass blocking held. The issue with the passing game was either poor route combos, or a qb who could not throw on time because he was confused, or could not throw accurately, leaving no yak. We saw proof of that at times yesterday. Huntley got the ball out quickly, timely, and accurately to provide yak. Is he the end all, certainly not. But he deserves a chance to show that this offense can score. You look at other games, Goff for crying out loud put up yards and points. Offenses see safeties 15 yards deep, linebackers 10, making it easier to not just run the ball, but have space for underneath routes, for yak. So that when there is a 5 yard pass, the receiver doesn't have 5 guys tackling him right away. The line will be fine, but they need help getting those back 7 to back off, it's all Roman.

For whatever reason, we don’t play well against Jax- cant get that monkey off our backs. The D laid an egg in the 4th Q but it shouldn’t have come down to that. We should have been up 14-0 instead of 6-0 then let a weaker opponent stick around and come back. I think it’s safe to say we’ve seen Lamar’s ceiling. This team has a dysfunctional offense and has for the past four years. There’s no way we offer him a long term deal. This team in its current form has no chance to advance in the playoffs, even IF it makes it that far. And that stinks. We need to build the rest of the offense around the QB and prepare for a legit franchise QB, maybe in 23; much more likely in 24. Until we get that, we’re going to see exactly what we saw today against the bad teams and big time struggle against the winning teams. My two cents…

Here, as an apology for my negativity, enjoy these rookies being ridiculous

Tag and trade him gets you there.

Thank you so much for this place, for all that you do, you are truly an amazing person.

I still have a football from the Denver playoff game Femi tossed to me. Funny story; A friend had an extra ticket, his wife couldn't make so he, I and his 8 year old son went. At half time, I head up to get a hot cocoa, Femi, who had broken his foot earlier in the season, was in line in front of me. We started up a conversation about the game, how well it was going. Then I said with a smirk, half joking; hey, if you get a chance toss me a ball, I'm sitting right behind the bench. He laughed, played along and said sure. Late in the 4th with game out of hand, Femi came within ear shot. I yelled to him, there was a ball under the bench right behind him. He picks it up and tosses it to me...

Burrows is a narcissistic SOB and I don’t want him as the face of my team. I’ll take Lamar any day.

Burrows can take his cigar smoking act and shove it up his ass.

The players clearly loved Wink, were a bit shocked by this move, this should be interesting. The wrong move now could end the Harbs regime...

Huntley should be the starter. Sit Jackson let him heal till the contract or trade him for picks. Papa has been right about harbaugh all along. He’s a motivational speaker at best and has very little football savy whatsoever. IMHO I’m not reacting to the game outcome either. It has been obvious to me for years.

Good on Huntley. He did prety well. Give him the practice snaps this week.

That is mostly on coaching and skill, more so than on talent. When stunts happen, some coaches teach to hand the defender off, block an area. Others say, stay with him and wash him down. Proper foot technique and hand placement help and are far more critical than power & quickness. This is where I think the line last year, fell down. The big fella never could get his feet nor hand placement right. He almost always looked lost on stunts, unsure who to block. I remember one play he actually chased the defender around Lindy, Vorhees and Lindy also struggled at times with this. One time they would hand the defender off, but one of them would not pick up the block. Middle blitzes were the worst, Lindy would have no one to block so he would help out one of the guards. Then the middle backer would blitz; every pass play. Lindy was always late in seeing it and never, ready through the game thread, never picked up the blitzes. All he had to do was fake a help block, get the backer to blitz and block him. But no, never, Lamar sacked or forced out to the defensive end, throw the ball away. I'm not sure what was worse, Lindy not picking up on this or the coaches not correcting him. You can teach technique, foot work, hand placement, so a natural power blocker is better. The big fellas problem was that they built the line to be zone blocking, quick. He was quick but too big for that, teams picked up on it and exploited him. Another head scratcher, why the coaches left him in, knowing, on film, what we all saw each game. Same for Lindy, not a power guy, so why would you use power plays against strong defensive line teams? Except to use their power against them, and slide block; pretty easy, if it is taught correctly, which, as we saw, was not. Lindy could slip those power defenders, get them off balance, but not when both guards are blocking a different way. As you see, it all goes back to the coaching, yard know, how other teams replace 3 offensive linemen in game, and don't give up sacks? Coaching, never saw that here last year, no changes, a line that went garbage after the year before when everything worked.. The Biscuit saw it, knew it, fired Harbs not because of Monken, in my opinion, but because of the line coach and defensive coordinator, whom Harbs refused to change.

Thanks, tsyl!

I see many talking heads calling out the refs for some calls. One comes to mind, they claim holding on Gisike on the 2 pt try. But as Bart Scott points out, Gisikie was trying to draw a foul, stuck his arm between the arms of the defender, then flailing and falling to the ground. No, the penalty should have been on him for unsportsmanlike.. Sure, Burrow got hit in the face mask, but did you notice the holding be done to that defender? No call there either. Or how about, on the same play, the hands to the face being done to VanNoy? All 3 penalties, 2 on the Bengals, one on the Ravens, happened right in front of the flag happy official, but he called none of them. I could point out others on the Bengals defense for holding in the secondary, or illegal contact on them, but we're not called. Yes, sure, Cinci only had 3 penalties, yes, sure, believe what you want. We have a great quarterback now, running, passing, buying time and weapons who know how to get open. Now to fix the pass defense as so many players said in the locker ooh after the game.

Idont get it free and I will never pay for it.

They haven't beaten a winning team AND, they can't play well in the cold. The Bill's are the hot team, one that could give the Ravens trouble. KC has a terrible offensive line, the Ravens edge rushers alone in VanNoy and Clowney should feast on their offensive tackles. Cleveland, as Papa said, has a legit defense and a very good tightend who alway kills the Ravens. But Joe is a statue, who is predictable, he will throw slants and when under pressure look to hit the tightend, exclusively. It why he is on pace to throw some 30 picks in a full season. They have built their wins on blown coverages, wide open receivers and tight ends. Frankly, all things being equal, if the Ravens play their game, nobody can beat them, no one scares me but the Ravens lack of focus. 4 loses, all winnable games, lost because of turnovers, drops, or as in the Pit game, that one doesn't count. Harbs is having them practice this week, a regular week practice, good for him. This team is healthy, talented, deep, don't let anyone stand in their way

Be thankful it's not Saturday, we expecting 5-8" of rain Saturday til midnight 30-59mph winds. They're calling for the wet weather to be gone mid day Sunday, but the winds will calm down. Lil mini hurricane

No it doesn't address his overthrowing deep balls (although he did hit OBJ on 1 of the 3 he threw deep last game), but he does seem to have a good grasp of what and how the offensive parts mesh together and it shows his work ethic. Hopefully he'll connect more often on his deep throws in the next few weeks. Hopefully..

In 2 yrs I think the team and most of the fans will see this deal as an anchor.

tsyl, crav, Grubber, Oldno82 ...you guys are sane football experts compared to what's out there. And all of you are tops on Ravens football. Yes, I said sane.

The Chiefs are starting to feel the pinch, letting a player they traded for, even tagged in the past walk now because he has earned the right to big money. The Ravens have a good young group, a restructure here or there keeps then in decent cap shape. But as we have talked about before here, the league had to do something about these $40 mil per year salaries. Even by drafting well, it is not sustainable

OC

Tsy, I think after the Head coach and OL domino falls, the team either acquires a bridge QB (e.g. Washington's Heineke, etc.), drafts another while keeping Huntley or Brown. Btw- no one's talking about it but it's a shame Brown didn't get on the field last night. Whatever the Biscuit of FO decide, its a DAMN big one and will impact the team for 10 years. Would love to position ourselves for either the USC, Oregon or UNC QB in 24.

If the running game sustains, and the defense keeps making drive stopping plays, then all that is needed is a passing game to augment, to fill in, to keep drives alive. Sure the big pass play is exciting, helps to infuse life into the team. But a 7-8 minute drive ending in a touchdown, now, that does as well and keeps the defense rested, the other offense off of the field. I know, I know this isn't the 2000 Ravens defense, they have laspes in coverage, miss tackles, don't get consistent pressure on the pocket. Even when they do, they tend to lose containment, etc... But if they can clean up the redzone on offense, score tds instead of field goals, maybe, just maybe....

I've seen enough. Week 14 coming up. The Ravens have too many good players to be executing like this. Roman has to go. Harbaugh needs to have a serious talk with Macdonald about what the hell he's doing at times. The D played well yesterday except for a few times. This "bend don't break" shit killed us in the Jaguars game and they almost lost yesterday because of it. It took the Broncos 26 seconds to go down the field from their 18 and get in FG range. Sorry! Not acceptable! Eric needs to talk with Harbaugh about his plan to save a sinking ship. Baltimore Ravens Offense....

You know that I have long been an out spoken opponent of Roman's. But the last few games he has really opened up his play book with some great schemes and timely play calls. Now the biggest hurdle has been Lamar and his accuracy. Once that comes back to the way he used to throw, high 60's, low 70's, this offense will take off.

WOW! It was ambitious then. Check out all the old technology. Cutting edge back then.

They aren't going 3 and out over and over like Lamar has lately.