oldno82

I think it's downhill from here... https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/video/4f630DNwoSlnd3z/?source=athletic_user_shared_video_copylink&smid=url-share-ta

I'd start Huntley. He would have earned it. Doesn't he own the only 2 victories over .500/better teams the Ravens have this year?

Well what is the original of these rumors of Lamar and Monk not getting along...I just don't see any daylight between the two of them? I do know Harbs threw Monk under the bus a few weeks back which I thought was unprofessional.

Some columnist I read a few days ago, his name escapes me now, said Lamar is still a little boy in a grown man's body. I don't doubt he's hurting but his injuries aren't serious enough to not play in the Steelers' game if he wants to. And therein lies the problem. Lamar is demoralized by the team's showing this year but he doesn't have the necessary leadership skills and demeanor to still play for the enjoyment of the game and for his responsibilities. Snoop does know how to lead though he lacks the quality level of Lamar's many physical talents. But Huntley can get the job done. I'd like to see him play this Sunday.

Somehow I feel we have a better chance to win if Snoop plays. I'll say Ravens win if Snoop plays and TJ Watt doesn't. Otherwise, all bets are off. But man this has been a weird year!

They did have good coaching but didn't they also have easy schedules?

I sure as hell wasn't expecting that! The Ravens get one more shot at the playoffs after all. I think if Snoop plays, we've got a chance. If Lamar plays, our chances are lower. But, really, I expect Aaron to have a field day against our defense. This has been one freaking crazy season in the NFL.

The D was terrible against the pass. Guys were out of position most of the night.

Snoop gets the team to give their best while Henry runs over the Pack defense. Of course, really happy we win but I just hope it isn’t a paper over of all our problems. We will see. Never thought I’d say this: Go Browns !

I'm hoping for better. Maybe we could finally come up with a guy who actually has shown he can pass rush and get sacks because we need more pressure coming from our front four. I'm talking about finding the next TJ Watt (in his prime).

I read where Willis is battling a sore throwing shoulder as well.

Hmmm. There was an unscientific poll in The Sun about the Ravens and Lamar and the leading poll result, of several options, was that we should trade Lamar for picks or players.

So he was quick to respond but not quick to answer?

I know...that's why I think it's past time for him to say something. Good luck to Monk.

There's a lot of uncertainty on the 'what's wrong with Lamar' question. I think his body is giving out rapidly and he is not taking care of it as conscientiously as many pro football players do these days. He probably needs to get stronger and eat better and get to bed earlier. Something I did not know is that the reason the team has afternoon practices in the summer in the heat of the day, is that Lamar is a late riser because he's up too late. So the Ravens adjusted the team schedule to suit him. That's not the right answer. Yes as a minimum the O-line coach & D-coordinator must go though I too would like to see the end of the Harbaugh era here even if it means losing Monken. I don't have high hopes that the current personnel on the O-line are all that good. Stanley is past his prime, and we need 2 guards and a solid RT. Only Linderbaum should be kept but I think he's gonna become a FA and go to some other team because EDC was too late on the draw. In the end, Steve will probably tell Harbs to can the DC and OC and the OC staff as well but keep Harbs at least for one more year. And, about Steve, I love the guy but, shoot, he ought to talk to the press when he goes about making these changes.

There's enough poorly managed franchises around to at least make an offer I think.

Preston has made the suggestion that the Ravens could trade Lamar for 2-3 1st round picks. Perhaps to Miami or Las Vegas. And so it begins?

In the NFL you never say a team could never beat another. But the Ravens players I've seen, especially Lamar, look demoralized. Harbs has that look too. So watch at your own risk.

It's not only conditioning, it's the whole philosophy of taking your foot off the gas and going conservative in the play calling with a lead that has hurt the team. That, too, is a coaching problem---a big one because players begin playing not to lose rather than playing to win bigger.This issue has been around for a long time with the Ravens.

I really don't have much to add to this excellent analysis. Yes Harbs and his staff must go, but I am now starting to think Lamar must go too. He has become too fragile to count on and he's so beaten up after years of running the ball, he just can't move around in the pocket quickly enough to avoid the sack anymore which leads to more hits on his body and less effectiveness, and on and on. It's a vicious circle. The O-line is decent for running the ball but can't pass protect effectively enough. The season, supposedly one ending in a deep playoff run, is over. Pittsburgh will win the division and we will spend the off-season on year 1 of a multi-year rebuild.

As Pacino would say, "This is gonna be tuff!". I don't think we can beat the Pats especially with Vrabel coaching them.

Yes. That's one of the reasons Ray Lewis was so great when Goose and Co. were on the D-line. Of course, Lewis also had a motor that just wouldn't quit. I still haven't seen his equal in how quick he could get to the sideline during a play.

That's true but premium edge rushers are probably easier to find than those mult-talented DT's. And also LT's are so important to protecting your multi-million dollar quarterbacks. All 3 are desirable on a team and I'd be happy to have any one of them as long as they can make an immediate impact.

I'm not discounting the need for a DT but I think our priorities need to be edge rusher and left offensive tackle. Of course, you always have to keep options open if a really superb player at another position falls to you. If only we could mock-draft some coaches.

At this point in the season, probably every player is nursing some type of injury even if it's not reported. Lamar was back at practice today. That's a pretty quick recovery for an 'illness'. I wonder if he's so banged up, he just needs the extra day right now. I worry that all the hits he's taken over the last 7 years have caught up with him.