oldno82

Prior to 2014, Ngata had been going downhill. Now it might have been injuries but I think his ability is going to drop this year much like in 2013. I'd much rather have the cap space and 2 draft picks. Hell, I thought they'd have to release him.

I'm not really sure bringing him back was a good idea. I would rather have seen some cap money spent on Chandler the Bill's big TE that they cut. RB's just have so many durability issues. I know he's a 'young' 30, but I still have doubts. I'm thinking going with the draft for a mid-round RB would have been a better option. 'Course, Oz usually knows what he's doing.

Wow! That boggles my mind. Was Brees a FA back then?

Nice post, Tbird.

We have about 5 million to spend after rookies and free agents. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/cap/2015/

Funny...seems like we were saying the same thing last year about the offensive line, WR, and TE and last year worked out decent.

I don't know how happy Joe is with Baltimore after all the hate he's found here. He might be willing to stand fast on his contract. As I said before, I hope not.

With you on that.

Possibly, but I can't see we carry a $28 million cap number for anybody. I don't want to see him go. Hopefully, they get on the stick and Joe's willing to restructure. In any case, since we don't know, we'd better start looking for a body to back him up and learn the position.

Very good move by Ozzie. So happy we got a 3rd and 4th!

Next year, Joe has to re-do his contract or else he'll be 'Ngata-ed'.

Rice & Ngata are killing us on the cap. One we can't control; the other we can. I think we're going to have to cut Ngata. I hate to see him go but we need some cap space. It does hurt to lose Torrey. We don't have a viable downfield solution anymore. Maybe they should have kept Jacoby for the lousy 700k they saved. He might have been able to turn it around on the receiving end and give us some semblance of a deep threat. You're right, Max. This time of year sucks for us.

Cundiff was over 30 years old when we had him.

That would be my prediction too. Tucker is a RFA. I want to see Will Hill come back also.

Well if we can't free up substantial cap space, Daniels is an answer. Denver tagged Demaryius Thomas is what I heard.

Some interesting FA TE's: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Whos-Out-There-Free-Agent-Tight-Ends/fbe4eb9f-d394-4cdd-89cb-f07160a73b39

If they can get him cheap, take him. Like Crav said, if we had had an average secondary last year we could have won a trophy.

If he's there at 26 we should take Strong.

It ain't much: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/cap/2015/ They need to make moves, either extensions or and/or cuts.

Gotta keep Webb and I think he might more amenable to a restructure/extension. Ngata probably going to get cut. He's indicated he can live fine without the Ravens and with some other team. Ngata comes with a downside though. He's 31 and before 2014 he had a string of just average seasons (granted injuries took a toll too). He gets beat up every game because he plays in the defensive line. How many contributable years does he have left, if any?

Except $8.5 million in cap space.

If he's cut and signs with another team do we get a comp pick?

If they really are far apart then cut him or trade him to Pags (and get more than a 6th round pick like we got for Q). Given the apparent lack of desire to really be here, which started with last year's contract extension negotiations, I don't think Ngata is going to remain a Raven. Fortunately, the D-line is solid even without him. Sure it'd be better if he was around but not that much better. Plus, how much does he have left at his age? And if he goes, the Ravens get an additional 8 million in cap space. The guy they really have to re-sign is Owen Daniels. He wants to be here, he's a contributor and play maker and dependable. Doesn't have many years left but we have desperate need of all the TE's we can get.

I read that too, Crav. Nobody really thinks Joe's cap value will be that high in 2016. They'll renegotiate or extend.

Yup, it's sad. I'm down about it too. But that's the game when you play with a cap. Plus he had so many drops this past year. Never forget that catch in Denver though.