oldno82

Hey! She said a 'suitable' replacement!

50 years is hard to stomach. 2 in 20 ain't at all bad, folks. And we still have a good team to take forward. Preston is right, though. They need to win a playoff game, preferably two next year! (Boy we are spoiled though, aren't we? Look at Detroit and Cleveland).

Just curious: why does the Extreme Ravens website depict a background of the Empire State Building in New York? Shouldn't we have a background of Baltimore instead? Or M&T?

Hard to believe neither Roman nor Martindale got a head coaching gig. Especially Roman. We're lucky to have both still with us. Next season will really be interesting. Like this season was!

And the best part is that he's a Raven and will be a superstar for years to come. Good for Harbaugh and Roman. Both certainly earned it with their revolutionary offense and the commitment to it.

Hmmm...just as a point of info, Dan was a pedestrian 8-10 in the playoffs over his 16 year career and never won a Super Bowl. Lamar, in his two seasons thus far has made the playoffs both times and lost there twice. Lets defer any discussion about evaluating Lamar's total performance until he has a few more seasons of records to observe. Not saying he's a Hall of Famer, just saying that you don't have to have won a Super Bowl to have been considered a great quarterback. Regardless, he had a really great season this year.

Disagree. The season is a compilation of 16 games whereas the playoffs come down every time to a one game season. The stats and results over the long haul are what count. Any team can have a bad day. Every player can play lights out in a playoff game and be mediocre in the season. I'm thinking particularly of Flacco 2012 whom you love to excoriate. And there are plenty of others who can shine for a game or 3 and then either barely get or can't get their teams into the playoffs. I also think of Dan Marino who had a fantastic career but who had loads of trouble making it to the playoffs and never won a Super Bowl. He's in the Hall of Fame and was elected in his first year of eligibility.

Needs are pressure creating defensive personnel whatever position they play and another ready to start WR. Get one through free agency and one through the draft and I'll be very happy.

Well if I hadn't seen Lamar make a lot of those throws and tighter in real life I'd be concerned but ho-hum, really. What he does need to work on is hard throws outside. Needs to beef up his arm strength. Correctable though.

Well that didn't take long. The NFL blocked the clips so they're all dead now. What happened??

Slightly behind the Chiefs. 50 years is a long time. But I won't be sad at all if SFO wins. The 49'ers have an entertaining defense and crushing running attack. I think the '9'ers win it.

Agree...all I keep thinking about is that we should be playing today. Honestly, though, I would've picked KC over us today. Two really dominant teams in KC and the Ravens regardless what they say about the Titans. Of course, as I say this, Tennessee has a two score lead. Really looking forward to 2020 though. I think big things will be happening through free agency ($34 million in cap space) , the draft (7 picks in 1st 4 rounds), OTA's, Training Camp and the pre-season. Lots to look forward to. Hopefully, we keep injuries to a minimum.

Yep. What he said.

I think Tomlin had a good argument considering all the injuries and other losses (AJ Brown, Bell) but they lost the last three games of the season. With the Ravens completely re-inventing an entire offense and then winning 12 in a row, I have to still say it's Harbaugh.

And vice-versa when it comes to Eagle coaching alumni.

What can I say? They both earned it over the regular season.

He be a good choice for them. Lamar likes him and we all have seen how well Lamar developed. A loss for us but you can't keep everybody after the year we had.

Couldn't agree more. They should be an exceptional team for years.

No on Ray and Ed. Too much ego with both guys. Lamar is already a damn good leader who motivates the entire team to play well. He'll learn how to motivate them to come back from behind.

You're right about Pees' strategy but we should have been able to overcome that. I can't put a finger on why we couldn't score in those positions.

Real Briefly: Stanley---agree. They can't afford to lose the young stud LT. Judon---agree. Worth keeping if he doesn't break the bank. If they can develop, trade for, or sign a worthy FA, Judon would be a good complement. Kerrigan---disagree...too old. Ngakoue---don't know...production drop-off in hurries and pressures from 2018 to 2019 even though sacks remained about the same. Jones---don't know. Draft---LB or receiver badly needed. And I'll add one more who may become a FA and would cost a ton but might be worth it: Amari Cooper

Interesting stat: Will Brinson ✔ @WillBrinson Ravens had drives that ended at the: Titans 36 Titans 31 Titans 4 Titans 18 Titans 31 Titans 15 Titans 16 Titans 21 And finished with 12 points.

Lots of good stuff here. I especially agree with the very last sentence. Lamar is a winner and he will find a way. I think it's important to remember he's 23 years old and in his second year and is a monumental talent. He needs some experience. He needs to learn how to pull his team back when they are 14 points down and get them back in the ballgame. These are things I think he's learning now. He'll be ready to go next year. And Harbs will have his team ready too. IF not, THEN we can talk about letting the coach go.

I'll only say that the verhemence of the criticism against Harbs is totally unwarranted. Criticism is always welcome but some have a hatred of him that is way out of the bounds of what objective criticism is. And it's always just beneath the surface here waiting for an opportunity to make a call to fire him. Where were they during the 12-game victory run? Or the new offense? Or keeping a team motivated for 17 weeks. I don't think the Ravens had a morale let down on Saturday. It was a confluence of several events.