oldno82

I agree somewhat that Bateman's missing camp and pre-season is a big hit to his development with Lamar. But, I also think he's more developed than most rookies and will start to make his presence known by October at the latest. He doesn't look like a rookie and I think has that 'it' factor that says 'star player'. Just my hunch. Proche and Duvernay were both not used enough by any means last year. The coaching staff, as you said, didn't get them on the field. They seem to not want to use rookies in certain cases though to my eye they were ready for a shot to play.

If we lose Bateman for 8 weeks...well,... pardon me if I throw up.

I couldn't agree more!

If you trade the high-priced star you lose his cap hit, sure. But your new qb will usually require 2 seasons to hit his stride and that's assuming you have such a star just laying around. After 2 years you go through the same thing all over again and on and on and on. Seldom will you have a really good younger qb on your team or be able to trade for. And that's not even to say what happens to your team chemistry and cohesion when you're switching out qbs every 4 years. And this goes for any player who is a superstar. Equal replacements aren't just lying around waiting for your team to call with a trade. The real trick is to balance on a high wire the constant push and pull of paying the high price for a franchise qb and keeping enough of a team around him with enough quality to give yourself a playoff shot every year. The Pats did it for as long as they wanted to keep Brady. They are the model to try and follow. And that is extremely difficult.

Sounds good. Like you said, more will be known next week but so far so good.

Maybe he can head-butt some veteran responsibiity into Lamar too.

Mike makes a lot of sense. If I were the Ravens I'd hold off on a contract for now until he gets the message. He has to show he's an adult now and still not a kid. Throwing him a ton of money right now would just be enabling behavior on the part of the team. You don't reward behavior like this. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any other recourse.

The only thing I can say here is what I keep muttering to myself: "Stupid, stupid, stupid!"

"TE Nick Boyle could be sidelined for part of training camp Ravens tight end Nick Boyle, who did not participate in the team’s offseason workout program as he continues to rehab from a severe knee injury suffered last November, had a cleanup procedure that could sideline him for a portion of training camp and the preseason, a source said." ---from The Sun. Oh, Gus Edwards is out for at least the first 10 days after testing positive for Covid. It's getting harder to find good news about the Ravens lately.

More from Preston: "There has been plenty of talk within the organization about Jackson getting a new contract, but the Ravens need to be careful and this deal has to be structured where a lot of money isn’t guaranteed until Jackson can prove this offense won’t fall asleep in the playoffs." I agree with this. We should know by January, the end of the regular season, if Lamar has 'it' on the outside throws. If he has learned it, they should be able to make a real playoff run. Well, as Preston also says, they need some type of pass rush that scares opposing offenses too and right now they haven't got that either. I've been a big defender of Lamar for the first two years and kind of feel that I'm 'piling on' here, but lets give these questions this coming season and see what happens before we give him the big contract.

Agree with Papa on this one. The Ravens go in as a wildcard this year. The Steelers begin their journey to become the Stumblebums.

Yup...one thing we don't have to worry about is Lamar's motivation and leadership.

Here's a deep dive into Lamar's passing stats. I thought he did well but there is room for improvement as we all know. The data has some video clips too in way of explanation: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-film-study-lamar-jackson-throws-20210722-kn7j22gfpzearph4vfbtsxkga4-story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Baltimore Ravens Insider&utm_content=1971626974424&smtrctid=#nws=true

I think it's more Greg Roman than talent supply. The guy is a run game genius but I'm not sure how much he cares about being ranked so low in the passing statistics.

Thanks, Tsyl! And I'll feel even better when I see him report for camp.

I'm only worried about Stanley...no news on him since November.

All of them! No, seriously...Chiefs, Steelers, Browns at a minimum. And congrats!

Yep and it never is an issue after that.

I agree with it being too early to throw in the towel. He's rehabbed through a lot of pain. Give him another chance.

lots of good reading provided by Mikey: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/analysis/preston/bs-prem-sp-preston-ravens-offseason-things-to-watch-20210619-u7uhhq5kbve4xf3d64ijcjlgai-story.html

not worried about when Cleveland signs...some guys don't sign until just before camp starts in late July. Line does look good on paper but Max, you're right, it takes time for an offensive line to move in sync.

I predict they'll be on the list next time.

Some upside notes, for the most part, from Mikey: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/analysis/preston/bs-prem-sp-ravens-preston-observations-june8-20210609-rqwh2x77njbqrppdl3bcglih2m-story.html

Yep, we're lucky to have him. Was it Billick or him they offered the head coaching job to second after they were turned down by Jason Garrett who went to the Cowboys?

If they can get some edge pressure on passers they have a great shot to win it all.