Geronimo

I know you weren't addressing me, but because i quoted what you said and mentioned you in my response to that quote i wanted to make sure you didn't respond to me and keep your word. So no one needs to explain anything to me, it seems someone needs to explain things to you.

i don't understand your theory, your theory makes absolutely no sense, so because he takes up 6% of the cap he should only get 6% of the blame. When we won the superbowl he gets all the credit, he carried us , thats what you groupies spewed, now that we're .500 he should get 6% of the blame, another lame excuse from a groupie and remember Money , you're not suppose to address me anymore because you said you wouldn't. If you're going to be a groupie at least be a groupies that keeps his word.

Nobody said Kap was great, all i said was he wasn't the only QB under pressure during that game and he managed to win. You groupies are trying to make it seem as if you're under pressure as a QB then you have an excuse to lose the game. Rodgers was under pressure and lost so it's ok if we lose with Flacco because he was under pressure, or it's not Flacco's fault if we lose because he was under pressure but Kap was under pressure and won so losing because you're pressured is no excuse.

what do you mean by one dimensional? he can't move? it took Flacco 13 weeks to realize he needed to move around and run a little. 13 weeks, you don't have to be able to run like kap to make plays when you're pressured , but you sure as hell better have some pocket awareness, a feel for the pocket, Flacco is lacking in this area. Rodgers the week before on the go ahead td against the Bears gets pressured immediately he slides to the left remains looking downfield and finds a guy for the TD, so Rodgers has it also, Kap just made more plays. and it's not like Joe can't run, he's a pretty good athlete, last year he ran down a denver db on an int.

It not all about how much he rushed for, yes Kap can run, My point is kap did what needed to be done to win the game and Yes kap was under alot of pressure also, just because a team pressures you, it's not an excuse for you to lose. You're suppose to find a way to make plays, and when you're highly paid it's expected for you to find a way to make plays.

I saw two qb's during that GB san fran game getting harrassed, one didn't get the job done and one did. kapearnick made things happen when he was under duress and rodgers didn't, of course you groupies chose to use the Rodgers example because he lost, and it better serves your agenda of making excuses for Flacco, i know you all were hoping Brees would lose the day before just so you could use his loss as a way to defend flacco but brees won so you had to wait a day to come on here and say "SEE, i told you he wasn't that good" the lengths you groupies go to. really pathetic.

John Harbaugh will get rid of any player/coach that has a strong enough personality to challenge him, he did it last off-season with the players who stood up to him and now he's doing it with Montgomery who also stood up to him and was telling him what the problem with the running game was. he's turning into a tyrant dictator.

If Evans falls to us we have to take this guy, but i agree o-line should be addressed if he doesn't, 6-5 225 with hands is hard to pass up. centers are not that highly valued , you still can get one of the best centers in the draft in the 2nd round. we'll sign monroe and i think Wagner would win the rt spot. just my early off-season thoughts

Marvin Lewis might be looking for a job, he's getting hammered in the media and has had more than enough time to build that team. But i don't care how much you coach a team up and inspire them if the QB wets himself in the big moments there's nothing you can do.

1st round a WR 2nd round a center 3rd round a RB, i agree this should be Rice's last year here and if not for the cap implications i would get rid of him now.

how many times do you have to tell this guy the same thing Craven, Rasta coined him Tardnado over on ESPN and now we know why

I think them beating us the last week of the season was there superbowl, they eliminated us , the big bad defending superbowl champs and they were satisfied.

first of all you're not Craven, and secondly and what's funny is you're trying to take up for Craven and he would disagree with you. look at the earlier convo, i already said it's because we have a pretty good defense and Craven said it was all excuses. you essentially are addressing why we have a good defense, but the Flacco groupie in you is coming out.

See Craven you're not answering the question.

so how can Joe put up the numbers he puts up and be on such a successful team , especially in this day and time with all of the passing thats going on?

of all the big money guys Joe had the worse numbers, but didn't have the worse record why? could it be Tucker Jacoby/special teams and our defense are pretty good, or is it those very very average ass numbers that Joe puts up.

Ok Craven when your numbers , are that much better than Joe's yet your team has a much worse record , what is the reason, all i'm saying is we have much better defense than those teams but thats an excuse to you, so whats the reason we're 8-8 with Flacco's horrid numbers and those two(Bress last year and matt ryan this year) are 2-14 and 4-12, you tell me

Matt ryan didn't go 2-14 the atlanta falcons went 2-14, what matt ryan did go was 26 td's 17 ints 4515 yds and 89.9 rating, thats what matt ryan went. next question

the year brees went 4-12 he had 43 Td's 19 int's 5177 yds and a rating of 96.3 He had one of the worse defense ever last year. So it's not his fault, he had one of the worse defense ever. Next question

Matt ryan 26 td's 17 int's 4515 yds 89.9 rating Joe flacco 19 td's 22 int's 3912 yds 73.6 rating This tells me the atlanta falcons defense is much worse than the ravens, if there qb can be that much more productive than Joe and still are only 4-12

Just because a QB has a giant new deal is the exact reason why most of the responsibility goes on Flacco. You don't get to play QB in the NFL, sign a huge contract and blame anyone else, joe doesn't do it and neither should the groupies. When we won the SB, you groupies said Joe carried us, now that we're 8-8 it's because of everyone else, thats what makes you people groupies, thats why you're a joke , thats why i ride Joe as much as possible, it's not even because of Joe, it's his groupies. You don't want Joe compared to Peyton, Brady, Brees or Rodgers, why not? "oh you shouldn't compare Joe to those guys", Joe makes what those guys make, Joe plays the same position but we're not suppose to compare Joe with them because groupies think it's not fair to Joe. See when i said the int record was the most unbreakable record you groupies latched on like there was no tomorrow, it's like "ah ha" i got these two now. i was giving you groupies a hard time, but i see a groupie saw something that he could actually defend and decided to jump on it. So just for the record the whole Flacco int. unbreakable record thing was a joke, but groupies could not understand that because like i said a light went off when i said it because you found something you could actually defend about Flacco. But what you can't defend is how long it took him this year to realize he was going to have to run some because he didn't have as much time as he was use to. he didn't start running until about game 12 or 13, what took you so long Joe to figure out you're going to have to move around. You can't defend his uncanny ability to yell 'alaska" and audible into the wrong play, the right play was called and you audibled out of it, WOW! you can't defend his piss poor ability to throw the long ball accurately, i'm wondering where he even got the reputation for being a good deep ball thrower, yeah is has a strong arm but that doesn't mean he's a good deep ball thrower, you can't defend him pouting like a baby when Taylor was getting wildcat plays,standing out there with your hands in your pocket and not moving is not the sign of a leader. You can't defend time and time again our defense keeping us in games and Flacco not being able to put up points. When Joe has time, the receivers get separation and we have a good running game, Joe is Great! but i could be a serviceable QB if i had all those things going on. What about when things aren't perfect what kind of Qb is Joe then, he's horrible. he needs Jacoby to run back a return , he needs the defense to keep the team under 17 points and get him good field position. Why didn't Joe carry us this year groupies?answer: because Joe has never carried us, We played great as a team last year and Joe was the only one that benefitted. we were damn lucky to get to 8-8. Now with Joe's undeserved contract, we are really behind the eight ball. Ozzie better have a great off season because now he knows Joe can't carry us. We would have been better off letting Joe walk and drafting a qb last year or this year. If you draft the right QB, you're going to get the QB for cheap the first 5 years and you can put a very good team around him. look at INDY, SEATTLE, CAROLINA, Washington last year,MIAMI,SAN FRAN, CINCY, PHILLY, most of these teams are in the playoffs and all have QB's on there first contract, not taking up a bunch of cap space, they put a very good team around there young QB and have a chance to be good for the next few years. We did the same thing with Joe, we should have let him walk and tried again because with Joe taking up so much cap space, he has shown us he not good enough to be the man. Joe is not Brady Brees Peyton or Rodgers even you groupies can admit that, and there teams made the playoffs with them having a huge contracts, we can't because we have Joe.

Great post Papa!

You're right dc, it was silly of me to say this is the most unbreakable record, i apologize to you and all of Flacco's groupies, since Flacco will probably break his own record next year, how silly of me to think that record would hold up with flacco being under contract for two more years.

it's cold up here in B-more, didn't know you were the fashion police Craven, just be glad you can where sandals down there and not need socks

and so is yours