vmax Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Will he be the first steroid clean player to break Marris's record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Is he clean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) #35 for Davis Adam jones with the earl weaver fav Edited July 13, 2013 by cravnravn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I hope so. I see no reason to assume he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 People are asking the question a lot now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 So? Ask away. I try not to be one of the people that look for a fecal lining every time some accomplishes something good. If there is a serious reason to suspect it then I will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Spen, see what todays society has brought us too, Yeah its great that Chris Davis is on FIRE, but with the cheating associated with Bonds, mcGuire, Sosa etal, it raises questions, unwarranted too. No different then the Marathon bomber, the minute it happened, we/I immediately went "muslim terrorist" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Hell look at Braun. There are guys that are still cheating. I can't say one way or another that he does but guys who suddenly start going nuts makes you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 The line that Davis is "suddenly" going nuts is what's craziest to me. This is a guy who hit 20+ HRs in 100 games at age 23 in Texas. And then when he went a month hitting around 190, they gave up on him. His minor league numbers are absurdly good. He has always had monster power; he just never had a chance to really use it in the big leagues. Now, at age 27, when most players are entering their prime, he has finally been given the green light to play and people are "shocked." Even Rick Reilly wrote an article saying "This from a guy who hit 54 HRs in 4 years in AAA. Right, Rick, except in those 4 years he only played 200 games because he up and down from the bigs. So really it was 54 HRs in just 1.25 major league seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 He has never been on this kind of pace before. It is just something that will always be asked for now on. I believe Roberts has fallen off the planet because he is not on roids anymore. There is no way in hell he took them one time. The past will taint the future foir the forseeable future. I think Batista is more than likely roiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Also Davis is 15 lbs lighter this year than last. I don't think he's on anything illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Hell Palmero didn't look like he was a guy who would be on anything either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Im sure he will be tested, I will wait for results...Im tired of wasting 13 dollars a baseball to get an autograph Edited July 14, 2013 by cravnravn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 36.....whatever happens this is a O's fans dream to have this kind of excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Of course he's never been on this pace before. But he's also only played one full major league season before. All I'm saying is that people who say "this is out of no where" haven't paid attention to his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Im siding with DC, he does have a sweet swing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 37!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 They are always tested. The problem is the tests are not really that great. I wonder how many would come up positive under the Olympic testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The testing for MLB is supposedly - supposedly - better than for the Olympics. Not sure if there is a way to verify that. The question is are the penalties as good and is the appeals process as strong for the league - I think the answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yeah, MLB's testing is about as good as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 This is a historic run... Davis hit his 37th home run to tie the AL mark prior to the break, and the Baltimore Orioles cruised past the Toronto Blue Jays 7-4 Sunday.Davis doubled in two runs in the first inning and hit a two-run homer in the third to give him 93 RBIs, second-most in the majors behind Detroit's Miguel Cabrera. He and Cabrera are the only players in major league history to have 30 homers and 90 RBIs before the All-Star game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704576204574529924006930210.html On the whole, the sporting world has come far. More than 600 sports associations adhere to the code of the World Anti-Doping Agency—a private Swiss foundation formed in 1999 to provide international antidoping standards. The code is a comprehensive policy banning the use of performance-enhancing substances like steroids, masking agents, narcotics, stimulants, beta blockers and practices like blood doping and gene doping. Many codes are enforced with random testing and "targeted" testing, which means that athletes can be tested if they have offended before, have performed a seemingly superhuman feat, or just seem impaired in some way. Rosemary Pitfield of the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport, which has helped craft antidoping policies in sports, says the best drug programs allow officials to look for drastic changes in an athlete's physique or performance—and to target those athletes. The most stringent programs require athletes—especially the top ones—to be available outside of competition to be randomly tested.The largest North American sports leagues do not adhere to the WADA Code. The main reason, they say, is because their drug policies are determined in collective bargaining with the players' unions. Travis Tygart, chief executive of the nonprofit U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, says the policies of leagues including the National Football League, National Hockey League and National Basketball Association are inherently flawed because "it's awfully difficult, if not impossible, to both police and promote your sport." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 On the whole, the sporting world has come far. More than 600 sports associations adhere to the code of the World Anti-Doping Agency—a private Swiss foundation formed in 1999 to provide international antidoping standards. The code is a comprehensive policy banning the use of performance-enhancing substances like steroids, masking agents, narcotics, stimulants, beta blockers and practices like blood doping and gene doping. Many codes are enforced with random testing and "targeted" testing, which means that athletes can be tested if they have offended before, have performed a seemingly superhuman feat, or just seem impaired in some way. Rosemary Pitfield of the Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport, which has helped craft antidoping policies in sports, says the best drug programs allow officials to look for drastic changes in an athlete's physique or performance—and to target those athletes. The most stringent programs require athletes—especially the top ones—to be available outside of competition to be randomly tested.The largest North American sports leagues do not adhere to the WADA Code. The main reason, they say, is because their drug policies are determined in collective bargaining with the players' unions. Travis Tygart, chief executive of the nonprofit U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, says the policies of leagues including the National Football League, National Hockey League and National Basketball Association are inherently flawed because "it's awfully difficult, if not impossible, to both police and promote your sport." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 MLB is not up to WADA standards. They are better than the rest of of the major sports but a USOC testing I think would comeback with a lot of guys I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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