Webb Out, C-Mac in?

[papasmurfbell]

I don't think they got Ivy to be a primary DB. They got him to fill in at special teams. Cmac is done. If he was so good he would have been picked up months ago. This is not the Cmac from 2000. That guy is used up.

[thundercleetz]

The latest on Webb's injury from Aaron Wilson on Twitter:

 

Harbaugh said Lardarius Webb is a maybe for training camp. Worst-case scenario is opening season on PUP list next season.

 

Lardarius declined to comment when I asked him about it. Too soon to tell until the surgery is done.

 

Here is what Wilson said on Cmac:

 

The evaluation of C-Mac went like this: looked old and slow on film. They mostly need a guy for special teams, Ivy fits bill

 

John Harbaugh just said on radio show that team had concerns about Chris McAlister's health

 

Also, Harbaugh said that Corey Ivy is best suited to play in the slot as a nickel cornerback and that McAlister is strictly outside corner

 

Harbaugh on Ivy: "I guarantee Corey Ivy will give it everything he’s got. I’m confident he’ll play well in this next game.”

 

Harbaugh confirmed that Chris Carr will start against Pittsburgh, and said Corey Ivy will be the backup slot. Frank Walker is the nickel

 

Harbaugh: "We respect Chris McAlister. Chris McAlister can’t play in the slot."

 

More Harbaugh: “We need a backup slot. We need someone who’s healthy."

 

http://twitter.com/RavensInsider

[ForceEight]

...but Carr can play in the slot. And so can Walker. Harbaugh's logic doesn't make much sense, unless he's saying that Ivy is simply a better slot corner right now than McAlister is on the outside.

 

Oh well.

[thundercleetz]

Like Aaron Wilson said, I think the main thing was that Cmac doesn't play special teams (something Webb did). And like said, I don't think Cmac was healthy. Remember, Cmac was an injury waiver from New Orleans.

[thundercleetz]

Update on Webb:

 

DECEMBER 23, 2009

 

Webb might not return until training camp

 

Rookie cornerback Lardarius Webb might not return to the field until training camp and could perhaps miss the first six weeks of next season, coach John Harbaugh said.

 

Webb was placed on injured reserve Tuesday after he tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee.

 

According to Harbaugh, the best-case scenario is Webb coming back for one of the final offseason camps in the spring. The worst-case scenario is Webb being placed on the physically-unable-to-perform list at the start of the 2010 season, which means he would miss at least the first six weeks of the regular season.

 

"There is a chance because he's young and he's a little bit lighter -- you don't carry as much weight around -- he could be back practicing in training camp," Harbaugh said

 

While it is encouraging to hear Harbaugh say Webb could be ready for training camp, realistically I would expect Webb to start the season on the PUP list. Houston Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson in 2007 tore his left ACL in Week 10 against the Raiders (November 7) and started 2008 on the PUP. The encouraging thing is that Robinson hit the ground running in Week 6 and was the same player as he was before the injury. Robinson plays a similar game to Webb, both guys are relatively undersized at 5'10" 184 and 175 pounds respectively, but play a lot bigger than their size. Robinson played 11 games in 2008, and has played in every game this season as one of the better CBs in the league. It also must be considered that Robinson tore his hamstring along with his ACL, so maybe that would entail a longer rehibilitation period. Nevertheless, I have no doubt in my mind Webb will continue his development into a very good corner in this league. Whether we have him Week 1 or Week 6 in 2010, we will be able to depend on Webb next season as a starting cornerback/nickelback.

[vmax]

Nice homework there cleetz....feeling better already.

This secondary can be tight next year. Foxworth, Washington and Webb....maybe a FA or draft pick....the Ravens will be fine.

Edited December 24, 2009 by vmax

[colincac]

Hopefully this convinces Ozzie to go try and get another #1 CB this offseason so we have Foxworth and the #1 guy to start the season and Webb ready to be a stud Nickel back in week 6.

[SpearSrai]

C-Mac may be slow, but he's big, physical, and comes up with game-changing plays. There are surely more holes in Walker and Ivy's games than whatever C-Mac has left. Health and character concerns are the only reasons why #21 remains unemployed.

[thundercleetz]

C-Mac may be slow, but he's big, physical, and comes up with game-changing plays. There are surely more holes in Walker and Ivy's games than whatever C-Mac has left. Health and character concerns are the only reasons why #21 remains unemployed.

 

Spear! Where have you been, buddy?

[SpearSrai]

Spear! Where have you been, buddy?

 

Oh, here and there. It's been a pretty stressful season for us Ravens fans, eh? It would be refreshing to win a big game for once this weekend.