papasmurfbell Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I think he can help out but I don't think he can feature anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'm willing to give RR one more season. Reports say he played at too high of a weight last year and he's already down to a lean weight. Cutting him now will be selling low and taking an unnecessary cap hit. If he has a bad year next year simply cut him with a post-June 1 designation. Either way, I agree with papa, he probably has two more years with us max. You simply cannot allocate that much money toward an RB in this day's cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 You have to keep him 2 more yrs I think. His cap hit next yr is really high also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 what about CJ2K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenousBG Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 No!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 We have two third round picks use one to draft Terrance West from Towson and call it a day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenousBG Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 We have two third round picks use one to draft Terrance West from Towson and call it a day. I like the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You have to keep him 2 more yrs I think. His cap hit next yr is really high also. It's very manageable if they cut him with the post 6/1 designation next year. People are only considering the cap ramifications (and as fans, that's all we really should be concerned with), but when predicting what the Ravens will do with Rice, people also need to consider that keeping him means Bisciotti has to give him $4mil this year and another $3mil next year in base salary. That's cold hard cash above what he's already received in bonuses and his base salaries in 2012 and 2013. I'm not sure Bisciotti wants to pay that kind of cash just to avoid the cap ramifications of cutting him. There's other things that can be done to give the Ravens some relief from Rice's cap hit. The above is assuming that Rice does not rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 what about CJ2K?The guy is a paycheck player. He is not worth keeping around. It's very manageable if they cut him with the post 6/1 designation next year. People are only considering the cap ramifications (and as fans, that's all we really should be concerned with), but when predicting what the Ravens will do with Rice, people also need to consider that keeping him means Bisciotti has to give him $4mil this year and another $3mil next year in base salary. That's cold hard cash above what he's already received in bonuses and his base salaries in 2012 and 2013. I'm not sure Bisciotti wants to pay that kind of cash just to avoid the cap ramifications of cutting him. There's other things that can be done to give the Ravens some relief from Rice's cap hit. The above is assuming that Rice does not rebound. Very true but it is still a lot of dead money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#story/bs-sp-preston-ravens-0402-20140401/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think he's a good fit for PIt. I'd have matched the offer. My only guess is Oz is eyeing someone in the draft in the third round maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think he's a good fit for PIt. I'd have matched the offer. My only guess is Oz is eyeing someone in the draft in the third round maybe. yeah that is what I was thinking as well. RBs can be found in the later rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Another thing going on behind the scenes is Ozzie is trying to resign Torrey/Jimmy Smith. He might be literally trying to save every cent till he knows whats going on with that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesteelhurtin Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Another thing going on behind the scenes is Ozzie is trying to resign Torrey/Jimmy Smith. He might be literally trying to save every cent till he knows whats going on with that front.yeah those are two big signings they need to get done. They have both turned into really good NFL players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Again I would not draft a RB before the 3rd and they would have to be special to do that. Here are guys on Walters has that I would grab. http://walterfootball.com/draft2014RB.php Jeremy Hill**, RB, LSU Height: 6-0. Weight: 233. 40 Time: 4.66. Projected Round (2014): 2-3. 3/8/14: Hill is occasionally a dominant runner. He was the best of a talented group of running backs for LSU over the past two seasons. Hill has the size of a power runner, but also has a burst to the hole and the second level of the defense. His quickness differentiated him from the Tigers' other big backs and led to him being the team's featured runner for 2013. Hill averaged 6.9 yards per carry in 2013 for 1,401 yards with 16 touchdowns. He also caught 18 passes for 181 yards. As a freshman the year before, Hill ran for 755 yards with 12 touchdowns and 5.3 yards per carry. Hill looks like he has the potential to be a starting back in the NFL and could even have three-down potential. He has a unique skill set and could be nice value pick on the second day of the 2014 NFL Draft - if his off-the-field concerns don't sink him. Personal: Hill has some off-the-field red flags. At the end of high school, he was charged with misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a 14-year old girl and also had a simple battery charge for a bar fight in April of 2013. Andre Williams, RB, Boston College Height: 5-11. Weight: 230. 40 Time: 4.56. Projected Round (2014): 3-5. 3/8/14: Williams ran pretty well at the Combine, but had a horrible performance in the receiving drills. It was clear why Willams had zero receptions in 2013. He lumbered with poor route-running and dropped passes. It really hurt his cause to be seen as more than a situational back. Williams put an exclamation mark on his tremendous senior season with a record-settting game on senior day. He ran for 339 yards on 42 carries with two touchdowns against N.C. State. That set a Boston College single-game record. In 2013, Williams averaged 6.1 yards per carry for 2,177 yards and 18 touchdowns. Williams was a backup running back during his first three seasons. He ran for 584 yards in 2012, 517 yards in 2011 and 461 yards in 2010. Personal: Son of Lancelene and Ervin Williams. Terrance West, RB, Towson Height: 5-9. Weight: 225. 40 Time: 4.54. Projected Round (2014): 3-5. 3/8/14: At the Combine, West had a solid performance. He is coming off a massive 2013 season with 2,509 yards and 42 touchdowns. That broke records in the Football Championship Series subdivision (Division I-AA). Towson totaled 86 touchdowns and 4,584 yards as a team for the year. In 2011 as a freshman, West ran for 1,294 yards with an average of 6.7 yards per carry. He totaled 1,046 yards in 2012 for an average of 5.4 yards per carry. In those two seasons, West had only 10 receptions. Personal: Majoring in sports management. Son of Onika West. Lorenzo Taliaferra, RB, Coastal Carolina Height: 6-0. Weight: 229. 40 Time: 4.58. Projected Round (2014): 3-5. 3/8/14: There were a lot of scouts who were impressed with Taliaferra at the Senior Bowl. He showed some blocking potential in the blitz-protection drills and also ran the ball well in practice. Taliaferra rewrote Coastal Carolina's record books in 2013 as he averaged 6.3 yards per carry for 1,729 yards with 27 touchdowns. The senior also had 23 receptions for 153 yards and two scores. Taliaferra didn't play much as a junior after coming over from junior college. A lot of teams are intrigued with Taliaferra's size, power and quickness.Height: 5-10. Weight: 225. 40 Time: 4.82. Projected Round (2014): 4-6. 3/8/14: Andrews was extremely productive for Western Kentucky during the past two seasons. The senior averaged 6.5 yards per carry in 2013 for 1,730 yards and 16 touchdowns. The previous season, he ran for 1,684 yards with 11 touchdowns (5.5 average). Andrews also showed that he has receiving ability with 41 catches for 478 yards in 2013 and 37 receptions for 432 yards and three touchdowns the year before. He had some ball-security issues in college. Andrews was solid at the Senior Bowl but was a disappointment at the Combine. James Wilder, Jr.*, RB, Florida State Height: 6-3. Weight: 232. 40 Time: 4.86. Projected Round (2014): 5-7. 3/8/14: The power back ran for 563 yards and eight touchdowns in 2013 while averaging 7.0 yards per carry. Wilder had three receptions for 27 yards, too. He lost some carries to Karlos Williams and Devonta Freeman. Wilder also missed the game against N.C. State because of a concussion. Both Williams and Freeman are more dynamic runners than Wilder. He runs too upright and does not have a good pad level. That could lead to injuries and ball-security issues in the NFL as Wilder will take a lot of hits. It made sense for him to enter the 2014 NFL Draft because he probably would lose even more carries to Williams and other backs next season. Wilder had an ugly performance at the Combine as he was extremely slow and continued to show a lack of body lean when running with the ball. 8/3/13: Wilder is a big back who has some quickness. The sophomore ran for 635 yards in 2012, while averaging 5.8 yards per carry. He also showed some receiving ability with 19 receptions for 141 yards and two touchdowns. Wilder is a downhill runner who can move a pile. He figures to see more carries as a junior in a backfield tandem with Devonta Freeman since a number of the Seminoles' players have moved on. Personal: Son of former Buccaneers running back James Wilder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 "carnal knowledge of a 14-year old girl" .... statutory rape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 You did see he was in high school didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Terrance West is starting to look pretty damned good to me. He's talented and we can get him farther down the draft list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 You did see he was in high school didn't you?It said he was in his last year...18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Or maybe 17. This happens all the time. Down in FLa a couple of girls were in a relationship. I think one was a soph and the other was a senior. The parents of the soph didn't like it but let it go. The day the SR. turned 18 they had her charged with statutory rape. This stuff happens all the time. It is a misuse of the law. It is not what the laws was written for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool739 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 I don't want West anyway, and not because I don't think he is a good player, he's too small for what we need....We already have RR, we need a big Bruiser, 6'+, 235 lb or so, and he don't fit the bill IMO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 You know West weighs 225, though. He's short, true, but powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool739 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 You know West weighs 225, though. He's short, true, but powerful.I thought it was 215 but 235 would be minimum for a bruiser, and we saw what happend to Rice when he went up to 225.....Running thru tackles is not those little guys game, it's slip or bounce off but never run thru....I miss Jamaal, that's my kind of RB, he'd run over, thru or bust you up til you got out of his way.....He was getting his yards, one way or the other..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I miss Jamaal, that's my kind of RB, he'd run over, thru or bust you up til you got out of his way.....He was getting his yards, one way or the other.He like that left side a lot. JO and Big Ed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Don't forget big Zues on the right. A big nasty road grader if I ever saw one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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