bmw800 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Not gonna happen, according to Olney: Orioles fall behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Not gonna happen, according to Olney: Orioles fall behind Good job Peter Irsay, EBW is doing flips in his grave seeing how you fucked up a storied franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Reports continue to be mixed... First... the O's offer is still expected to be 7 years for between 140 and 150. Other offers, none confirmed, are supposed to be 8 years for ~160, though perhaps less. That again means that Tex might be taking fewer years, but not less money per year. So how much of a discount would he be giving us? Marginal. Second... MacPhail has said today that the "locked offer" rumors are bogus. He said he does not think the O's are out of it and he never said the O's offer was set where it was. In fact, he implied that he would be surprised if the O's first offer was accepted ... almost hinting that there would of course be other offers when they hear from Boras and Tex. That said... MacPhail made no promise of adding to the offer. Finally... the 'lure of Baltimore' continues to be a trend coming out of most camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I dont see how the "lure of Baltimoore" has anything to do with it, wheres he played, Texas, Atlanta, California Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 He didn't have a choice in the places he's played... drafted by Texas, traded to Atlanta, traded to Anaheim... all while under the MLBPA's rules for young players... Now, given the chance to come home, he has expressed interest in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 SOX ARE OUT OF THE RUNNING!!! http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/basebal...0,7021656.story Team owner John Henry sent and email to the media... Sox have been outbid and won't be in the hunt anymore! WHOOOOOA. Might be false, but whoooooa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Uh... still not feeling too confident. I hope we pull this one out, but I do not think we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 My big hope remains: 1. That even if Henry is just trying to call Boras' bluff, that the O's are using the delay to help themselves out a bit. 2. That Boras continues to be an ass and punish teams that make a fool of him - in this case the Red Sox. Gonna punk Boras? Nope. He'll sign elsewhere for less... just because. I also have an inkling that perhaps the Red Sox had the high offer, but Boras said, you're 20m over the O's... but Tex wants 25m to leave Baltimore. You haven't been outbid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc. Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Angels are out. Of the original 'final four'... that leaves the Nats and O's. Nats have apparently offered more, if original reports are right, but the O's original offer is the only offer that's ever been confirmed by anyone. Sox still aren't entirely out, but they are still playing that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 All anyone (mainly Olney) has to say is that the Orioles offered $140M and are thereby discounted completely from the race. Why bother reading anymore coverage? It's all far too disgustingly opinionated. No news? Keep quiet until there is some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 All anyone (mainly Olney) has to say is that the Orioles offered $140M and are thereby discounted completely from the race. Why bother reading anymore coverage? It's all far too disgustingly opinionated. No news? Keep quiet until there is some. Because AM said the offer is "flexible". Rumor is that AM asked Boras for the last chance to counter before Tex makes a decision, I guess that is as close as it comes to a "hometown discount". Right now the Nats are rumored to have the highest offer. Do you really think that Angelos would let Teixeira go across town to the Nats? This is why we are still covering the Tex saga. I heard a quote about Boras, it is never good to be the front runner with his clients, because he just plays them. AM is playing it smart, IMO, by not getting played by continuely raising the offer. Even if the O's are willing to go higher, why go higher if you know it will not seal the deal? AM knows how Boras works, and if he feels the opportunity arises where we have a legitimate chance to make an offer and get Tex, he will make it (provided it is within our budget constraint, whatever that may be). I still do not think the O's will get Tex. IMO, the Nats are getting played and Tex will eventually end up in Boston. The O's are certainly in the race still trying to keep pace for a potential sprint down the homestretch. If they weren't, AM is an honest guy with the media and would have come out publically and said the bidding has gotten too expensive (like the Angels). If this is not the case, why is our $140-150 million offer still on the table? That is almost embarassing considering the other offers, and gives us bad rep around the league. It is still on the table because AM is keeping the door open to further negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 ... He's a Yankee. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravensfan1 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 ... He's a Yankee. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141 I hope their stadium falls down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 ... He's a Yankee. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141 Okay, forget everything I said, you were right, Ken. Some reason I am not as mad as I would be as if he signed with the Sox or Nats. I guess you kind of expect this thing from the Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I don't know what to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think its really fun when one team can get the top three free agents. Its also fun each year when every big FA goes to one of 5 or 6 different teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat21223 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The yankees, are you kidding me! I was hoping he would go to Nats, if not us As a St Joe grad, I am really, really disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83eh01 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Well, Roberts is gone now. I'm giving up if the team can't extend Markakis and needs to trade him next offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeshopper Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think its really fun when one team can get the top three free agents. Its also fun each year when every big FA goes to one of 5 or 6 different teams. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BallTMore Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Oh well. Go Yankees! Go Major League Baseball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Well, Roberts is gone now. I'm giving up if the team can't extend Markakis and needs to trade him next offseason. Well, be prepared to give up on this team. You really think Markakis is going to extend with the kind of team we have in the AL East? At this rate we will never be able to compete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCEagles Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The Entire MLB is like a giant farm team for the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The Entire MLB is like a giant farm team for the Yankees. And neither the owners or the players seem to care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spen Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I love baseball, probably more than I like football. I may have had enough though. The owners and players are OK with say about 6 teams being contenders and the rest farm teams for the top teams. Ive had enough. When one team smarting from not winning the world series (but still being very successful)can grab the top three agents at a cost of 400 million plus its a joke. Is that supposed to be impressive? Is a GM with unlimited resources a good one? And it pisses me off that the owners and players are fine with it. Sure make your money, owners and players, but dont spend time wondering why preseason football beats MLB pennant race games in August, although I am sure I will read articles wondering why next year. That fault lies solely on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I love baseball, probably more than I like football. I may have had enough though. The owners and players are OK with say about 6 teams being contenders and the rest farm teams for the top teams. Ive had enough. When one team smarting from not winning the world series (but still being very successful)can grab the top three agents at a cost of 400 million plus its a joke. Is that supposed to be impressive? Is a GM with unlimited resources a good one? And it pisses me off that the owners and players are fine with it. Sure make your money, owners and players, but dont spend time wondering why preseason football beats MLB pennant race games in August, although I am sure I will read articles wondering why next year. That fault lies solely on you. I feel the exact same way, I might be done with baseball as well! Except for the occasional game at OPACY, but I might have to get a few brews in me to watch it now. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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