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#1 TBird

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:02 AM

He should know. He used to coach it and left his prints all over it so for those still worried about

the secondary, get this:

 

The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore.

 

 

 

 

http://www.baltimore...32-ac173c363608


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#2 vmax

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 03:24 AM

It scares me.

They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors.


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An airtight defense can get the Ravens to the playoffs, but the Flacco who showed up Sunday resembled the one who led the franchise to its last Super Bowl berth. He was the one who coaches and teammates, all preseason long, had said was capable of this.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 05:16 AM

What did you want pags to say? He's seen the film's he's seen what we've seen. For the Colts to win they better be scoring on big plays.
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Posted 03 October 2014 - 06:31 AM

time will tell, but four games does not show a scary defense. so much changes over the course of a season. a big part of those stats is from the bengals game where they chose to get cute in the red zone or just played it safe, willing to take 3 because the ravens offense could't do anything, marv had more faith in his defense. 


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#5 TBird

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 09:09 AM

What did you want pags to say? He's seen the film's he's seen what we've seen. For the Colts to win they better be scoring on big plays.

Did you even read this:

 

 

The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore.


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#6 TBird

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 09:13 AM

It scares me.

They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors.

If you want to mock scary, how about Shipley. He's the starting Center for Indy. The pass rush

should have no problem pushing him back like teams did to him last year and his pal Gino


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#7 varaven45

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 09:22 AM

Forget the stats and all this other crap. Luck is going to eat up our secondary and Pags knows it. He's being kind and displaying gamesmanship.

Joe and our offense better bring their track shoes and have another epic performance. We'll need every point we can get .
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Posted 03 October 2014 - 01:19 PM

Did you even read this:
 
 
The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore.


Reread what I wrote, I absolutely know what our red zone d is ranked, I stated they better make big plays if they want to hang with us
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Posted 03 October 2014 - 04:39 PM

I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had  a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance.  

 

Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that.


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Martindale will bring pressure from anywhere on the field under any situation. He has the psyche of former Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan. He doesn’t give a damn because his style rules.


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Posted 03 October 2014 - 04:45 PM



I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had  a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance.  

 

Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that.

 

That was some good stuff, we'll get back there, Mosley will be our mini-ray lewis


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#11 tsylvester

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 05:59 PM

 

That was some good stuff, we'll get back there, Mosley will be our mini-ray lewis

 

 

 

He ha s along, long way to go just to be a mini bart scott.


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#12 varaven45

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 07:14 PM

Yep. Mosely is a gamer and potentially a future star. But The D is a shell of the previous ones, and our secondary is atrocious and will be exposed Sunday- that you can bank.
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#13 TBird

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Posted 03 October 2014 - 10:04 PM

I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive.

 

That's the bend don't break theory. It actually works while driving the fans nuts.

 

But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had  a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance.  

 

Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that.

That's when Rex was here and he blitzed most of the time.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 01:24 AM

That's when Rex was here and he blitzed most of the time.


Actually, Marvin Lewis started it. Rex enhanced it and Pags rejuvenated it after we had a poor defense under Mattison (I think that was his name...he left for a college job). I'm not a fan of 'bend don't break' defenses because it keeps the D on the field too much and wears them out by the 4th quarter (as it did last year). It's also a very passive philosophy. I like aggressive defenses that attack instead.

Our Defense has made 1 interception in 4 games and that was a freak thing by Ngata.

Now, perhaps Pees feels we don't have enough talent to be aggressive. Could be true in the secondary.
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Martindale will bring pressure from anywhere on the field under any situation. He has the psyche of former Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan. He doesn’t give a damn because his style rules.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:38 AM

He ha s along, long way to go just to be a mini bart scott.


He's leading candidate for droy, he's not that far off.
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:13 AM

Ravens D is 24th in allowing 3rd down conversions.

3rd and long is almost a sure 1st down because opponents are forced to throw.

 

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Edited by vmax, 04 October 2014 - 04:28 PM.

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An airtight defense can get the Ravens to the playoffs, but the Flacco who showed up Sunday resembled the one who led the franchise to its last Super Bowl berth. He was the one who coaches and teammates, all preseason long, had said was capable of this.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:19 AM

Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45
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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:26 AM

Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45

 

 

yea...the O's need to finish this thing off.

Maryland stomps Ohio State at noon today.


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An airtight defense can get the Ravens to the playoffs, but the Flacco who showed up Sunday resembled the one who led the franchise to its last Super Bowl berth. He was the one who coaches and teammates, all preseason long, had said was capable of this.


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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:31 AM

yea...the O's need to finish this thing off.
Maryland stomps Ohio State at noon today.


Noon??? Dang, I got my lawn to cut then vacuum the pool, I'll catch the 2nd half
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#20 TBird

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:03 PM

Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45

The Ravens and Bengals are the only teams in the NFL that rank in the top 7 in both points scored and points allowed.


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