oldno82

Buy or Sell: The Ravens will be just as elite as any team once they get Stanley, Dobbins, and Gus back and find a stud RT.

Poor timing.

Harbaugh can't deal with any strong players let alone a nut case like A.B.

Yep...for sure.

Yeah...right. I thought they had won one in 80's with Boomer, but no.

Yeah I'd love to see Buffalo win it all. I love the way their team handles adversity. Besides they've been in the league all these years and never won the big enchilada.

The article also suggests there were a lot of strong disagreements between Martindale and Harbaugh over the course of this season. Sounds like Harbs ran into another in a long line of strong personalities he didn't want to supervise. I'm beginning to feel Harbs might be the one who needs to be replaced.

I'm not buying that story.

Really unlikely now for Roman to go. I really wonder who's idea this was. Harbaugh's? DeCosta? Bisciotti? All 3? And they see no way to let Roman go? I have to admit to being baffled by this whole affair. The organization as a whole has lost some of its luster for me on this move.

The Ravens announced today that they have 'parted ways' with Wink Martindale the DC for their last 4 years. I find myself rather pissed at this. The defense had it's secondary's heart ripped out and the FO never got him the pass rushing talent he needed. Meanwhile, jerk Greg Roman is still around. Is Wink gonna be the fall guy for the 2021 season and not Roman? Please tell me Roman is on the way out too. Here's the link: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-don-martindale-out-20220121-ymugmn5imffe7feix2l7hjem4m-story.html.

Another expert weighs in: https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/late-for-work-1-21-pundit-predicts-ravens-lamar-jackson-won-t-get-deal-done-this

Wow! I wasn't expecting an article like that! I think Papa is really Mike Preston!! I still think they should table negotiations with Lamar until mid-season next year because we just don't know what we're getting. Give him 8 or 9 games and see if he has adjusted his playing ability to what defenses are throwing at him. If he does, then give him a big contract but if he doesn't, time to find another answer at qb. Lamar has in the past made some plays I didn't think were humanly possible, but defenses have made adjustments and now he must too. I appreciate what he's done for the franchise but now we're a losing team.

I would say Ten or Buf vs the Packers for the Super Bowl.

If the Cowboys were as big as Jerry Jones' ego and mouth then they'd have something! Meanwhile the Steelers and Ben: one and done. Shoot we coulda done that.

Unfortunately, I am not sold on Oweh either...as you said, next year will tell. I really don't like drafting projects especially in the first round. Even if they do develop, by the time they do their rookie contract is over and they go elsewhere for the big pay day.

The Pats sure hit paydirt with Judon. Sure it costs money but if you don't commit the resources in free agency you're cutting yourself off from a proven supply of talent. It takes a balance between drafting and free agency to stay relevant and the Ravens did that under Newsome. The jury is still out on DeCosta. I'm not a Jerry Jones philosophy guy just saying it takes both avenues to be a successful franchise and over the years the Ravens did rather well. Now coaching is another story. I'm not sold on Roman and I think Wink tries to get by on what he's given. Roman doesn't adjust from year to year as he has shown in SFO, BUF, and now here. Wink doesn't get any pass rush talent so he tries to make up for that with schemes and two outstanding cornerbacks of Peters, Humphrey. That will work against mediocre teams but not against the big boys.

I'm talking about starting quarterbacks. Geez it's hard enough to find them in round 1 and nearly impossible after that. Look at how many shots at finding one the Browns and Bengals took over the years and only now do they have competent qb's.

Gotta agree with Tsyl. It's a hit piece of an article that overlooks the facts and the facts are that this franchise is a long way from falling or even declining.

MLB is important. So are edge rushers. So is LT. The question is, in what order are those priorities? What can we get in free agency? Anything there for any of those positions?

The draft is of course important but it's also something of a crap shoot once you get past round 2.

So many priorities and so few top picks to get them. Can we afford to make a major move or two at free agency? LT is a necessity as is pass rusher. I don't think CB is our number one priority.

You don't want to fall so far south that your team absolutely sucks just so you can draft a Joe Burrow type guy. With the talent that this team should have healthy next season, Joe Flacco would have had a field day and we didn't draft him until mid-first round IIRC. So you look for a competent guy like Joe. BUT only if Lamar shows no progress. If we're still treading water next year we will know it's time to let Lamar go. I hope that doesn't happen...Lamar has the ability he just needs a coach to keep him on the beam at all times.

I read Mike's latest article and was going to cut and paste his observations but it turned out I felt nearly the whole article was both accurate and relevant. It also echoes a lot of what Papa (and Tsyl) have been saying. So for those of you who haven't read it, here's the link: https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/analysis/preston/bs-sp-ravens-2021-season-accountability-preston-20220112-uoq4qf24gfes7l7s5uy2cqf5bq-story.html

Another thing...we need 1 or 2 more players on offense and/or on defense who are real playmakers.

That's a definite alternative, Crav. Imagine if the team had had a healthy Stanley, Dobbins, Gus, Marcus Peters, Humphrey, Watkins etc. Watkins is probably done as he is never healthy but the the other guys are question marks. Can they make it back to 100%? If so, the team will just need a RT and maybe a safety. I haven't made up my mind yet, but yes there is an argument for bringing everybody back, even Roman.