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Webby back on punts! He must be 100%

3rd and 2.(^$@#@%&*(&*)^)(@#!

1st and 30.....2nd and 24....Browns backed up....so how do they blow this?

Let's add missed tackles.

Too many yards after contact

come on JOE! He has men open everywhere

11 plays...80 yards including a 2nd and 20 23 yard completion....Thank you D for giving this crowd a load to cheer about.

come on Elam!

typical opening drive on the Ravens D

The Browns Super Bowl! Very hostile, delusioned crowd.

DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!

I get your point dc. Perhaps I am trying to see "they best". Tell me how a sacrifical lamb will help matters.

There's nothing here..."Yet"...that is see that warrents firing somebody on the Ravens or somebody stepping down. Last thing they need is another fall guy. I want Goodells head to roll because I think he's real bad for the present and future of this sport.

I think I can. Harbaugh looks terrific at this moment. I can cheer him, his coaches and definetly the players. None of this is their fault. Even Ozzie. His decisions were based on what he believes to be the right course of action and consistent with his past behavior. To give 2nd chances to good guys...support them through rough times...to try and help them grow and change. His players are more than numbers and statistics to him. They are human beings, young men who will make mistakes and that they need mentoring and support. Now...Cass and Bichiotti.....

I couldn't find a trace of this OTL article on nfl.com....therefore it never happened.

Here's Schmuck's spin....

Yea...Harbaugh is looking good to me too. That's why I say this is "Shakspearian" Goodell and Bichiotti are the powerful Kings tied to their Kingdoms. Steve might have helped take Roger down by convincing him on the 2 day deal. Money was certainly a big factor that clouded their decision making. And their public image. That's what spinning the truth is all about...playing us for fools. The media is spinning this too. And then there's the forgotten Jannay. Is she caught in the pattern many abused women get stuck in? Is she ok? I mean healthy or is she in denial? And yea Force!... the public?! Us. I feel dirty....like I'm part of the mad crowd of spectators at the Colliseum giving the thumbs up or thumbs down with each development. When all is said and done there will be 587,000 versions of the truth.

Like I said..."I also believe that Steve and his team went to work immediately to minimize the impact on Ray and to try and prevent the video from going public...to try and "get him through this with the least amount of damage to him and to them."...and "All these characters are wrong.". For a moment they looked like they had got back on the right track...for a moment.... This news is still sinking in. I haven't been able to process all of it, but I hate lying, back stabbing snakes. The texts from Steve to Ray smacks of "Take the Fall for Us." Is that what Steve did? It's hard for me to believe that at this moment...because it's so sleazy.... but I may wake up believing that.

I believe what I posted. If your child did this, most parents at first would not want to believe how violent and horrible it actually was. That's the denial part that loved ones fall into. Especially if the person they love has been a really good person. It is very hard to believe that they could do something so terrible....so you minimize it. It took a long time for them to wake up....and they wouldn't have except the video got out. I also believe that Steve and his team went to work immediately to minimize the impact on Ray and to try and prevent the video from going public...to try and "get him through this with the least amount of damage to him and to them." What makes this whole tragic saga facinating to me is how deep it goes into human character, corporate character and societal issues and "sick secretive behavior". Because the NFL is so popular millions are following this and I hope they are using it to look in the mirror to grow, wake up and change. If you've lived long enough, then you've fallen into similar quicksands that this huge cast of characters are in....only not on a World Stage for millions to comment on. It's like a Shakespeare tragedy. We've all fucked up and done things we regret. All these characters are wrong. But Ray Rice, it seems, sobered up, and reverted to his true character and did what is right. "Always tell the truth." He told them all....when it got time for the media though, he could not flat out say "I knocked her out with my fist." He balked. I would too.

Read what I said. I can't fault him for wanting to believe ""We kind of heard what we wanted to hear and imagined what we wanted to imagine because we loved Ray," I have not commented on the other stuff that you are bringing up.

The timming is perfect. Look how it worked out for the Steelers game.

The only people to see the video in this contrived guessing game story is the security guard and Rice's lawer. After the meeting with the security guard, everybody knew there was an inside the elevator video showing that Ray hit Jannay. I believe this.... http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11551518/how-ray-rice-scandal-unfolded-baltimore-ravens-roger-goodell-nfl So glad they wrote this... Ray is a very good man who had one bad moment and I can't fault Steve for wanting to believe it wasn't so bad. It's called denial and almost everybody falls into it one time or another.... He's telling the truth. He's human. He was wrong....but that goes with being human. This confirms what I think about Ray. He's a really good man....and he got drunk and had a nightmare moment that he'll take to his grave regretting and feeling horrible about it.

The fans have spoken and this is getting national attention. Maybe the public will think a little kindlier towards us.

I want Goodell gone but it's not his fault these players are doing this. They are performing these actions. Now the league is finally responding quickly. I hope this quicker response doesn't save his neck.