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First drive sucked.. since then wow calm good old Joe cool, and yes the line is doing their job.

hmm wait 3 Qs

Joes first comeback game! Behind 17-27.. Was it a third a long deep in Ravens territory? And Joe and RR was marching! And it was a Clowns team who just have had a big win over the defending SB champs the week before.

Not sure about Troy be the more instinctual, they both have it a lot! Ed can win games with his big plays, but Troys level on bad days is better. In 2008, I would have had Reed as DPOY. And Troy as MVP. In a season with major defense impact. Obviously Harrison who become DPOY and Ware and early that season big AL all would have been worthy DPOYs. The two DBs did shine more than the rest that season. Reeds last 8-10 games was not was for real that season, games like against the Redskins game, it was game over after five minutes and two Reed plays, The Philly games did not help McNabbs case. And Troy he should have been the MVP that season especially in a season when QBs (Peyton too) did not have much of an impact. I believe QBs and their OCs is more afraid of Reed who I believe is the better playmaker, but Troys energy (Like Ray Ray in 2000-3) gives so much more to his team mates. And the crazy thing is I believe they could play together and that would be a nigthmare for the rest of the league. Edit; too early with this DPOY thing.. And we migth have something to say about this if it was decided today.

Most of the Suns reporters predicted a L and problems in this game.

I am tired of this owned by Palmer, he has really not been the difference since 2004-6, since then it has been a ridiculos weak Ravens offense and playcalling who had been the difference, and a well coached Marwin Lewis team (not 2008), so owned by Marwin make sense not Palmer!

I really the dislike Suggs so called penalty, if this should be the standard, the zebras would have to change the game. Rays so called tripping is a little more in the unlucky category. Our D did their job, ST even.. Most of the game we did better, one big play hurts. Nah this was on Joe and I am wondering if the playcalls is too advanced Cam! Last game you could argue that the OL failed, and a missing and shaky runninggame, this week they did a very solid job.

Here we go again, Ravens defense is elite.. probably already leading in yards after week two, and hard to see QB backups from Browns and Steelers change this the next coming weeks. Flacco and Cam here we go again, against Jets the OL was not helping much, but they did a better job today, so this has to be on Joe and Cam! And good job by the Cincys D.

At least the Bungles O is not much better.

Great game Mattison. And btw also ST.

Good job by D and ST, so fare.

Yeah I like that! Byrne give us a taste of inside and a familiar tone. Thanks Rex! Never mess with an old lion!

I believe winning TOP is important especially in games against good QBs + give the old people a rest/ Benson a rest and first of all this, give the secondary a rest and Palmer out of rhytm. So run, run wild!

The OL without Gaither is not very good, he had less time than Sanchez, still Joe was in another league.. And 250 yards + 60-80 PI yards, pretty good against one of the leagues best, if not the best D. And unlike Boller and many others not very good QBs when he makes turnovers, he is not trying to force things.. And in this game he did improve during the game. Remember how our D after a couple of turnovers normally takes control, that never happend here against this great D, you have to credit Joe for that fact. Im am not sure if he will be a top 3-5 QB, but he is pretty close to be a top 10 QB. I take that any day and if he will improve from that.. It will just be bonus!

Agreed.. And Ray was great.. offense I think they did fine all of the recievers including Heap, and btw forget the u it is still Boldin! And Carr and Fabian did their job, but Sanchez play and mini Schottys call..hard to give them game balls

23 passing yards against this supposed to be the worst secondary.. And they should be winning, come on.

Willis baby!

Two turnovers.. Still as long as the D plays like this we are in the game.

That OL need realize that the season has started, need to do a better job.

Ditto.. Good job by Ravens, and hopes for Clayton to do well.

Nothing odd, it is scheduled, in 2005 we played GB and Vikes here oh and what crazy Boller days!, and in 2007 we played Jets and Pats at home.. that Pats loss when the former DC now.. called a BS time out!

And in the four games without both Ed and Fabian, again less than average 200 passing yards and 100 rushing yards per game, 4 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, but 9 interceptions and 4 FRs! 5 TDs but 13 turnovers! 60 points/15 per game.. this is more than solid numbers without the chief ballhawk. And Landry and Carr who struggled early that season stepped up! And we did replace Scott with Gooden/Ellerbe. GB 3 TD, 3 turnovers Lions 0 TD, 2 turnovers Bears 0 TD (Return TD), 6 turnovers Steelers 2 TDs, 2 turnovers And what we also seems to forget is that last year Suggs, Ngata and JJ all struggled with form and injuries and missed a lot of game action.. This was the first season when Suggs and Ngata was not dressed up in every single game. This is as I see it what matters. A healthy D, and the D will be just what we expect them to be and more! Btw that Steelers game, makes me still angry!

Boldin and Mason have to be there too, do we now have 3 of the league top ten Wrs in receptions?

Are you thinking 2011-12? If so I am concerned too. One part is the elderly vets, but mostly it is the young players, who is going to demand new contracts. Edit: Just read what you wrote in the Housh thread, disagree TJ is nothing like Ward.. If anything hate to say it..Heap.. remember Jamal Lewis when he played for the Clowns in 2007! Sure there is emotions, but icons like Ward or Ray Lewis simply is in another league.

Agreed + the contract, I believe we will save money and Reed and Smith will be here next year, Clayton not.