deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I'm so glad that women's health decisions are this tool's responsibility. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMFHX5iqBY You would think that with all the family issues that he’s had to deal with, Boomer Esiason might be a little more sensitive when it comes to the birth of a child, even considering the landscape of professional sports. The NFL analyst and radio host, along with his partner, Craig Carton, are catching a lot of heat for their stances on New York Mets second baseman Daniel Murphy leaving the team to be with his wife in Florida following the birth of the couple’s son. Murphy has the right to paternity leave under baseball’s collective bargaining agreement, but that didn’t stop Boomer and Carton from questioning why the player is leaving the team after the birth. Esiason took it one step further by claiming he would have his wife have a C-section so that he wouldn’t miss any playing time. “Bottom line, that’s not me,” Esiason said on his morning radio show. “I wouldn’t do that. Quite frankly, I would have said ‘C-section before the season starts. I need to be at Opening Day. I’m sorry, this is what makes our money, this is how we’re going to live our life, this is going to give my child every opportunity to be a success in life.’” Coming from someone who has done yeoman’s work raising money for cystic fibrosis in the name of his son, Gunnar, a graduate of Boston College, that insensitivity seems misguided. Murphy can take up to three days paternity leave, but you can probably consider it a medical leave as well. Three days away from the Mets is likely considered mental therapy. Quote
RavenMad Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 What a Dickhead. Doesn't he know what a C Section does to a woman's body? Over here you are not allowed to drive until your doctor deems you fit again and that could be up to 6 weeks after. You are not supposed to do any lifting of any kind that is heavier than your new born baby. My guess is Carton understands this and felt he needed to be there to help out his wife. Perhaps we could cut Boomer open and see if he feels his spouse should help him out around the house for a couple of weeks! I'm sure there would be a long line of people waiting to stab him. Quote
Robjr83 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Whats douchie the C-section comment or just his overall attitude against paternity leave? Could you imagine if Joe took two weeks off following his sons birth.... Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Boomer is in for the family talk when people can contribute to his family. Quote
Robjr83 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I have two cousins with CF, one died from it..... it contributes to my family too Quote
deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 Whats douchie the C-section comment or just his overall attitude against paternity leave? Could you imagine if Joe took two weeks off following his sons birth.... Both. Quote
deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 I have two cousins with CF, one died from it..... it contributes to my family too And here's a guy putting his family first, and Boomer's reponse is cut the woman open so there's no conflict. Quote
Spen Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) He's an idiot. Its a sport, its a game, its a job. If Joe missed a game to be with his wife I'd be fine with it, even if she had it the day before. You never know what can happen in childbirth (see Matt Stajan, Jermaine Lewis) so if a player wants to be there, thats fine with me. Edited April 3, 2014 by Spen Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 He's an idiot. Its a sport, its a game, its a job. If Joe missed a game to be with his wife I'd be fine with it, even if she had it the day before. You never know what can happen in childbirth (see Matt Stajan, Jermaine Lewis) so if a player wants to be there, thats fine with me.I disagree there. I don't care about their personal life. You play. The C section comment is ridiculous though. Quote
Spen Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I disagree there. I don't care about their personal life. You play. The C section comment is ridiculous though. Yep, we disagree there then. Quote
Robjr83 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 He's an idiot. Its a sport, its a game, its a job. If Joe missed a game to be with his wife I'd be fine with it, even if she had it the day before. You never know what can happen in childbirth (see Matt Stajan, Jermaine Lewis) so if a player wants to be there, thats fine with me. They were talking about him missing the full 2 weeks allowed by the law. It's all about an written in the paper which stated the Mets brought up another pitcher because they were uncertain if he'd be back for his second start. Its all speculative.... Quote
Spen Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 They were talking about him missing the full 2 weeks allowed by the law. It's all about an written in the paper which stated the Mets brought up another pitcher because they were uncertain if he'd be back for his second start. Its all speculative.... I thought the article stated he could take 3 days off for paternity leave. Quote
deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 I disagree there. I don't care about their personal life. You play. The C section comment is ridiculous though. So, you agree that it is job to play, but you disagree that he should use provisions of the law for those that work? Quote
deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 The FMLA entitles eligible employees of covered employers to take unpaid, job-protected leave for specified family and medical reasons with continuation of group health insurance coverage under the same terms and conditions as if the employee had not taken leave. Eligible employees are entitled to:Twelve workweeks of leave in a 12-month period for:the birth of a child and to care for the newborn child within one year of birth;the placement with the employee of a child for adoption or foster care and to care for the newly placed child within one year of placement;to care for the employee’s spouse, child, or parent who has a serious health condition;a serious health condition that makes the employee unable to perform the essential functions of his or her job;any qualifying exigency arising out of the fact that the employee’s spouse, son, daughter, or parent is a covered military member on “covered active duty;” orTwenty-six workweeks of leave during a single 12-month period to care for a covered servicemember with a serious injury or illness if the eligible employee is the servicemember’s spouse, son, daughter, parent, or next of kin (military caregiver leave).http://www.dol.gov/whd/fmla Some employers allow you to break up the time. And for women, the leave starts depending on what your doctor says. For instance, if the doctor orders a pregnant woman to bed rest 4 months before her due date, that's when her FMLA starts. Which makes the equal time of leave for the father that much more important. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I think what people are more commenting on is Boomer's c section concept. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 So, you agree that it is job to play, but you disagree that he should use provisions of the law for those that work?With great opportunity comes large sacrifices. The guy who is working as a landscaper and a guy who plays ball are apples and oranges. Quote
deeshopper Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 With great opportunity comes large sacrifices. The guy who is working as a landscaper and a guy who plays ball are apples and oranges. OK, then we disagree. I think everyone is entitled to same protections under the law, so long as they are eligible. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 It is legal but I don't think deserving. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/04/boomer-esiason-apologizes-for-insensitive-comments-on-murphys-paternity-leave/ Boomer Esiason Apologizes For Comments On Murphy’s Paternity LeaveWFAN co-host Boomer Esiason says he’s reached out to the New York Mets and is “truly sorry” for “insensitive comments” made earlier this week regarding second baseman Daniel Murphy’s paternity leave.Esiason issued the apology at the start of Friday’s “Boomer & Carton” show:“I want to say again on this radio show that in no way, shape or form was I advocating anything for anybody to do. I was not telling women what to do with their bodies. I would never do that. That’s their decision, that’s their life and they know their bodies better than I do. And the other thing, too, that I really felt bad about is that Daniel Murphy and Tori Murphy were dragged into a conversation, and their whole life was exposed. And it shouldn’t have been.“And that is my fault. That is my fault for uttering the word ‘C-section’ on this radio station. And it all of a sudden put their lives under a spotlight, and for that I truly apologize. I tried to reach out to Daniel yesterday through intermediaries over there at the New York Mets, and to his credit, he answered all of his questions yesterday. I’m sorry that he had to go through that. No man should have to go through that. And certainly Daniel Murphy, who we both admire much as a baseball player as anybody else — and all I can say is that I truly, truly, feel terrible about what I put them through. So for that I certainly apologize.“I spoke with (Mets public relations chief) Jay Horwitz yesterday and was texting back and forth with (COO/co-owner) Jeff Wilpon, and I think Daniel — I can’t speak for Daniel — I think he wants to put everything behind him, he wants to try to play baseball, he wants to try to become a dad, he wants to try to do all the right things in life, and he has every right to do that. And again, like I said, I apologize for putting him and his wife in the midst of a public discussion that I basically started by uttering insensitive comments that came off very insensitive. And for that I apologize, and that’s really all I can do.“The other thing I do want to say is that my friends — our friends — over at the March of Dimes also reached out to me yesterday. And I immediately called them back and talked to them, and they kind of re-educated me on their mission statement. And you and I (co-host Craig Carton) have been a part of the March of Dimes luncheon for many years, and I go back all the way to 1994 with them, and they were very gracious in re-educating me and making me understand what their mission statement was. And I agree wholeheartedly in their mission statement.“I can only hope that people understand that my comment — my flippant comment — wasn’t made in any way, shape or form to insult anybody. But obviously it did. And for that I am truly sorry.”He added: “Again, I just want to reiterate one more time that if I in any way, shape or form insulted anybody, that was not my intention. My flippant remark was insensitive. I’ll leave it at that. And again, I feel terrible for the Murphy family, because what should be the greatest time in their life turned out to be somewhat of a firestorm that I personally put them into. And for that hopefully they can find forgiveness in their heart.”“My deep apologies to both Daniel and Tori Murphy for creating an intrusion into a very sacred and personal moment in their lives, and that’s the birth of their son, Noah. Daniel is the Mets’ second baseman, whose brief paternity leave led to a flippant and insensitive remark that I sincerely regret. (In the) meantime, I’m very grateful to my many friends over at the March of Dimes who graciously reached out and re-educated me that if a pregnancy is healthy, it is medically beneficial to let the labor begin on its own rather than to schedule a C-section for convenience. In fact, babies born just a few weeks early have double the risk of death compared to babies born after 39 full weeks of pregnancy. As their promotional campaign says, ‘Healthy babies are worth the wait.’ And as I proud father, I couldn’t agree more.”Murphy made his season debut for the Mets on Thursday. He left the team prior to Monday’s opener to be with his wife in Florida.MLB players are allowed up to three days paternity leave under the collective bargaining agreement. Quote
vmax Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 He was very wrong and should take a break from broadcasting to get his head straight.But it's not just him....it's so many writers and talk show hosts that spend a huge amount of time talking about players personal lives, rendering judgments and PC advice..like they have never "sinned". There is way too much self righteous indignation. They are more social media types who have a foothold in football but must not be interested in the game. They need time off to learn the game and find other things to talk about or publish in the gossip columns. Yea...I get upset over a lot of the sick behavior too....and if I had the podium that they have, then I'm sure I'd put my foot in my big mouth and get fired real quick...Mad magazine would probably find a spot for me... It's America in miniature and under the microscope.That it is only entertainment and entertainers needs to be mentioned too. Our elected politicians, who should be held to a much higher standard, are probably worse in character than these guys. Now...there's a lot of poor character peopl,e but on the flip side, there are tons of high character players and people.... but that doesn't sell. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 When you have to sit there and talk for hours in an unscripted environment then you will put your foot in your mouth every so often. Quote
Oldschool739 Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Whats douchie the C-section comment or just his overall attitude against paternity leave? Could you imagine if Joe took two weeks off following his sons birth....Boomer said first of all, he had a legal right to do that, but that's not what he personally would do.....The C section was a tongue and cheek comment that would certainly offend many women, but understanding that they both made it clear that "if" all was well with the mother and baby, he should get back to work after 24 hrs, and understanding that the guy they speak of can certainly afford hired help to take care of them in his absence, I totally agree with them.....The C section comment was over the top, but taken too seriously IMO..... Quote
Spen Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Boomer said first of all, he had a legal right to do that, but that's not what he personally would do.....The C section was a tongue and cheek comment that would certainly offend many women, but understanding that they both made it clear that "if" all was well with the mother and baby, he should get back to work after 24 hrs, and understanding that the guy they speak of can certainly afford hired help to take care of them in his absence, I totally agree with them.....The C section comment was over the top, but taken too seriously IMO..... Could you please cite the source where Boomer said it was tongue and cheek, or explain how you drew that conclusion? Ok, thanks. Quote
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