vmax Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Yes...he's an idiot...but he makes a good point here... Baltimore RavensOverrated: RB Ray Rice -- Is he really a star runner anymore? I know he can still be an effective player, especially in the passing game, but I want to see more. So do the Ravens.Underrated: CB Jimmy Smith -- He might be on the verge of a special season, one that could get him to the Pro Bowl. Smith has all the tools to be an effective shutdown corner. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/24599152/the-most-overrated-and-underrated-nfl-players-team-by-team Here's his most Overated Player in the NFL...proof that he's a sub moron with the huge pile of Overrated players in the NFL to choose from... My choice is Baltimore running back Ray Rice. I know the Ravens had line issues last season, but Rice's 3.1 yards per carry is absurd. And his per-carry average has gone down each of the past two seasons. That's not a good sign.Rice is still a quality player, but let's not put him among the elite backs anymore. And this has nothing to do with his off-field issues, which cloud his legacy as well. This is about football. And Rice is coming off a bad season and a bad offseason, which means 2014 is huge for him, and it's why he's the choice as the NFL's most overrated player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted June 30, 2014 Author Share Posted June 30, 2014 Spot on here.... Miami DolphinsOverrated: ILB Dannell Ellerbe -- They paid him a lot of money to sign as a free agent from Baltimore last season and he was a major disappointment. I thought he'd be much better than he was for the Dolphins. He needs a bounce-back season.Cleveland BrownsOverrated: OLB Paul Kruger -- They paid him a lot of money to amp up their defense and he didn't provide much in terms of pass rush. They essentially paid a lot of money for an edge setter. Oh, boy.Tennessee TitansOverrated: T Michael Oher -- They paid him a lot of money to sign as a free agent and play right tackle. Why? He was really bad in 2013 for the Ravens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 And I was the one who wanted to trade RR. Can I see the hands of those who agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I expect a decent year from RR. I'm hearing good things about his physical condition. Lets also say that with Shitley, Gino, and Oher no one's putting up yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I think the touches have gotten to him. It is the position. He will be part of the platoon. As soon as they can extricate themselves from that bad contract they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Spot on here.... Glad we didn't pay those guys. Says a lot about how we coach. And how Oz rates talent. He was off on the Boldin call though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 It is better to be a yr to early than a yr to late letting a guy go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I wanted to let Rice go as well but knew that wasn't going to happen. The real lesson should have been no long-term contract for a RB. I'm actually very happy Prisco did this, I don't think Rice is DONE quite yet, so this will be another thing that can light a fire under the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Even while motivated sometimes your body will not do what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Gotta give rice the benefit of doubt here, Rice hurried back way to soon from that hip injury.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He was coming off tons of touches and he is thread bare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Only time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 True. But looking at how the careers of RB's go Rice is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Quite possibly he's done but before I pronounce last rites I want to see him in the pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pre season wont even really say anything. It is the reg season that will tell all. He will be a raven for this yr I just don't expect anything from him. I see the running the hot legs all yr long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't think you can write a guy off completely after one injury-riddled year behind a historically bad offensive line. You can probably say he isn't a Top 5 RB anymore, but you have no evidence he can't return to be a very useful player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado700 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Papa- you're nothing but a hater. Must suck to be you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I don't think you can write a guy off completely after one injury-riddled year behind a historically bad offensive line. You can probably say he isn't a Top 5 RB anymore, but you have no evidence he can't return to be a very useful player. I don't think he will do anything but I am not saying to cut him. He has to stay around so when he is on teh field yo feed him. They fed Willis even though he wasn't worth what his contract was paying. Papa- you're nothing but a hater. Must suck to be you.I love this poor excuse when someone points out the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Ray Rice has to revive his career. That, to me, means he's on his way down.I also believe he can revive his career and have a great season if Kubiak uses him right. It's hard for me to be a Ray Rice fan after his off the field behavior but I'm trying. I flat out loved the guy as a player with heart and as a good power of example off the field before this. Everybody has a moment or 2 of behavior they would like to take back...hell...I might have a decades worth.. The offense used to run through him. Now the Ravens can't rely on that. Hopefully at some point they will find out that they can count on Ray again. They'll know before we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I expect a decent year from RR. I'm hearing good things about his physical condition. Lets also say that with Shitley, Gino, and Oher no one's putting up yards. Gotta give rice the benefit of doubt here, Rice hurried back way to soon from that hip injury.. Only time will tell Quite possibly he's done but before I pronounce last rites I want to see him in the pre-season. I don't think you can write a guy off completely after one injury-riddled year behind a historically bad offensive line. You can probably say he isn't a Top 5 RB anymore, but you have no evidence he can't return to be a very useful player. Papa- you're nothing but a hater. Must suck to be you. Just searching for something and ran into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Wow Edited November 17, 2014 by cravnravn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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