TBird Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 He should know. He used to coach it and left his prints all over it so for those still worried aboutthe secondary, get this: The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Chuck-Pagano-Ravens-Defense-Like-A-Scary-Movie/0eb13da6-a955-4f7f-af32-ac173c363608 Quote
vmax Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 It scares me.They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors. Quote
cravnravn Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 What did you want pags to say? He's seen the film's he's seen what we've seen. For the Colts to win they better be scoring on big plays. Quote
tsylvester Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 time will tell, but four games does not show a scary defense. so much changes over the course of a season. a big part of those stats is from the bengals game where they chose to get cute in the red zone or just played it safe, willing to take 3 because the ravens offense could't do anything, marv had more faith in his defense. Quote
TBird Posted October 3, 2014 Author Posted October 3, 2014 What did you want pags to say? He's seen the film's he's seen what we've seen. For the Colts to win they better be scoring on big plays.Did you even read this: The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore. Quote
TBird Posted October 3, 2014 Author Posted October 3, 2014 It scares me.They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors.If you want to mock scary, how about Shipley. He's the starting Center for Indy. The pass rushshould have no problem pushing him back like teams did to him last year and his pal Gino Quote
varaven45 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Forget the stats and all this other crap. Luck is going to eat up our secondary and Pags knows it. He's being kind and displaying gamesmanship. Joe and our offense better bring their track shoes and have another epic performance. We'll need every point we can get . Quote
cravnravn Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 Did you even read this: The unit ranks second in the NFL in points allowed (15) per game, and is the top red-zone defense in the league. Offenses are coming away with touchdowns on just 27.3 percent of their trips inside the red zone against Baltimore.Reread what I wrote, I absolutely know what our red zone d is ranked, I stated they better make big plays if they want to hang with us Quote
oldno82 Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance. Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that. 1 Quote
cravnravn Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance. Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that. That was some good stuff, we'll get back there, Mosley will be our mini-ray lewis Quote
tsylvester Posted October 3, 2014 Posted October 3, 2014 That was some good stuff, we'll get back there, Mosley will be our mini-ray lewis He ha s along, long way to go just to be a mini bart scott. Quote
varaven45 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Yep. Mosely is a gamer and potentially a future star. But The D is a shell of the previous ones, and our secondary is atrocious and will be exposed Sunday- that you can bank. Quote
TBird Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. That's the bend don't break theory. It actually works while driving the fans nuts. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance. Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that.That's when Rex was here and he blitzed most of the time. Quote
oldno82 Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 That's when Rex was here and he blitzed most of the time.Actually, Marvin Lewis started it. Rex enhanced it and Pags rejuvenated it after we had a poor defense under Mattison (I think that was his name...he left for a college job). I'm not a fan of 'bend don't break' defenses because it keeps the D on the field too much and wears them out by the 4th quarter (as it did last year). It's also a very passive philosophy. I like aggressive defenses that attack instead. Our Defense has made 1 interception in 4 games and that was a freak thing by Ngata. Now, perhaps Pees feels we don't have enough talent to be aggressive. Could be true in the secondary. Quote
cravnravn Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 He ha s along, long way to go just to be a mini bart scott.He's leading candidate for droy, he's not that far off. Quote
vmax Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Ravens D is 24th in allowing 3rd down conversions.3rd and long is almost a sure 1st down because opponents are forced to throw. Edited October 4, 2014 by vmax Quote
cravnravn Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45 Quote
vmax Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45 yea...the O's need to finish this thing off.Maryland stomps Ohio State at noon today. Quote
cravnravn Posted October 4, 2014 Posted October 4, 2014 yea...the O's need to finish this thing off.Maryland stomps Ohio State at noon today.Noon??? Dang, I got my lawn to cut then vacuum the pool, I'll catch the 2nd half Quote
TBird Posted October 4, 2014 Author Posted October 4, 2014 Our pass d is 24th Indy is 21, we need this to be a short game, O' s are on at 3:45The Ravens and Bengals are the only teams in the NFL that rank in the top 7 in both points scored and points allowed. Quote
OutsideRzAcE Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 It scares me.They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors. Agreed - the Ravens D is getting more credit than they deserve in general these days. If you have TY Hilton and/or Reggie Wayne in fantasy then start them Quote
vmax Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 The D will be a little lean today.Canty's out, so McPhee, Tyson and newly acquired Guy will fill in. No depth after that.Suggs is active but how effective he will be with a thigh injury remains to be seen. Webb is active...how much PT and how effective he will be is anyone's guess. On O...the Ravens only have 2 TE's for today; Daniels and Gilmore. Juice could have a big day. Quote
TBird Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 It scares me.They will get exposed big time Sunday. All smoke and mirrors.So much for smoke, mirrors and track shoes. Defense held Luck to 20 pts and that last TD was a gift from Joevia INT putting ball on 30 yd line. D did OK in red zone again. D sacked Luck up the middle but didn't blitz theA gap often enough. It was the offense that didn't show up and lost the game and coaches that put an undrafted rookie LT on anisland by himself. Defense did the job. Ask Luck how he feels getting hit a lot and going down once. Quote
rastaman831226 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 I think Pags is blowing smoke up our ass. But those stats about points allowed and redzone are impressive. But not scary. In fact the last defense the Ravens had a D that I'd call scary was Pags' when we had blitzers coming from every direction and getting through or faking it and dropping back into coverage. That kept other teams off balance. Remember when our Defensive philosophy was 'Organized Chaos"? I really miss that.Wow, Organized Chaos. Sexy Rexy. You just put a tear in my eyes. Those were the good ole days when all teams feared our defense....... ( sniffle ). Quote
tsylvester Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 So much for smoke, mirrors and track shoes. Defense held Luck to 20 pts and that last TD was a gift from Joevia INT putting ball on 30 yd line. D did OK in red zone again. D sacked Luck up the middle but didn't blitz theA gap often enough. It was the offense that didn't show up and lost the game and coaches that put an undrafted rookie LT on anisland by himself. Defense did the job. Ask Luck how he feels getting hit a lot and going down once. D did the job? Really? They gave a 20 play drive, 20 freaking plays, allowed the Colts to hold the ball for 9 minutes in the 2nd and 10 minutes in two other quarters, yet it was the offense that caused the loss? Good job? Not hardly. Yes, the offense could have done more, but then it is difficult when the defense, once again, can't get off the field. Quote
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