papasmurfbell Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 https://ebonybird.com/2018/12/09/ravens-marty-mornhinweg-outstayed-welcome/ The Baltimore Ravens offense has been hot-and-cold far too often this season, and it’s far time they move on from Offensive Coordinator Marty Mornhinweg.Since taking over as the Baltimore Ravens Offensive Coordinator in 2016, Marty Mornhinweg has frustrated fans more than any other play-caller we can remember. Week after week, Ravens Flock is calling for Mornhinweg’s job, and it’s hard to blame them. Morhinweg is far too inconsistent of a coordinator and it’s well past time for the Ravens move on from him.It doesn’t matter who lines up under center for Marty Mornhinweg, because time and time again he fails to set them up for success. When Joe Flacco is under-center, the offense revolves around check-down passing despite Flacco’s big arm. Baltimore’s offense turns into the most conservative West-Coast offense imaginable. There is no creativity in the plays and their inefficiency still finds a way to blow us away. You would’ve thought a new, exciting young quarterback like Lamar Jackson would change the philosophy. Nope. Instead, Marty Mornhinweg maitains inconsistency and goes from power running to a pass heavy approach. When the Ravens run the ball, they have major success. Not so much the other way around.Considering Jackson’s game revolves around his mobility, one would think this would become a point of emphasis and using the run to operate the offense (pun intended). While the game seems to start off that way, it quickly derails into classic Marty Mornhinweg play-calling. Rather than playing to Jackson’s strengths, Mornhinweg quickly alters the mindset to passing the ball and keeping Jackson inside the pocket. Does Jackson need to become a better passer? Absolutely, but pigeonholing him in the pocket is a recipe for disaster.The bottom line here is the Baltimore Ravens front office has been far too patient with Marty Mornhinweg, and he’s been given far too long a leash. If there was ever a better time to fire this man, it would be right now. Marty Mornhinweg needs to go so that the Ravens can finally have a chance to blossom into something less stale. I have been saying it for yrs. Quote
varaven45 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Hard to argue with the above. Imagine what a Norv Turner type of a more progressive guy could do with Lamar.Would it have made a difference yesterday in KC? One has to wonder. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 But Norv is not friend of Harbs. There was a chance to hire him a few yrs ago. Quote
deeshopper Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Since taking over as the Baltimore Ravens Offensive Coordinator in 2016, Marty Mornhinweg has frustrated fans more than any other play-caller we can remember. But I remember Matt Cavanaugh. Quote
GrubberRaven Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Isn't he Washington's OC now? Or the Jets? Quote
papasmurfbell Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 But I remember Matt Cavanaugh.And Caldwell. Harbs is not capable of hiring a good OC. Quote
varaven45 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Oh hes capable all right; just not willing . Quote
vmax Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 To begin, I wanted Marty gone before this season. That said, Marty's been doing a good job this season.He's a big help because of his experience developing Vick and Vick will tell you he was a great help. That article is right on as far as past seasons, but as far as this season, it's ridiculous.Lamar has to throw a little more every game.He has to develop into a passer. Has to learn to read defenses. Now. He had to throw in OT because the Ravens were running out of time and had a long way to go. The holding penalty killed them.Teams will figure out the run game real soon. The Chiefs were onto something in the 2nd half.It's not producing points and points happen to be important. A complimentary passing game is needed to get it to the next level. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 I think a McVay and other could get even more out of Lamar. Quote
OutsideRzAcE Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 To begin, I wanted Marty gone before this season. That said, Marty's been doing a good job this season.He's a big help because of his experience developing Vick and Vick will tell you he was a great help. That article is right on as far as past seasons, but as far as this season, it's ridiculous.Lamar has to throw a little more every game.He has to develop into a passer. Has to learn to read defenses. Now. He had to throw in OT because the Ravens were running out of time and had a long way to go. The holding penalty killed them.Teams will figure out the run game real soon. The Chiefs were onto something in the 2nd half.It's not producing points and points happen to be important. A complimentary passing game is needed to get it to the next level. i like Marty more than most fans. I was ok with him coming back - I think his energy and quirky enthusiasm is good for the team. I also think he gets a bum shake by having Flacco as his QB - I do understand that he is at fault for treating Flacco like Joe montana and asking him to pass 100 times a game. All that said, like the author of the article I was also perplexed to see them passing so often when they were running well. I know there was a series or two early on where the Chiefs stopped the run but then the Ravens got right back at it and at one point were averaging 8 yards on 1st down according to a graphic shown on the broadcast. Still inexplicably we'd pass on 1st or 2nd and fail setting up 3rd and long. Lamar converted quite a few of those so it didn't end up being pivotal but seemed like an unnecessary risk to put the rookie in that situation in a tough environment. Quote
oldno82 Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 They have to have an effective passing game and Lamar needs the reps as well. Can you imagine how potent this offense would be if it had an average passing attack to go with its monster ground game? Quote
OutsideRzAcE Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 I agree with that LJ needs opportunities to develop as a passer, I just dont think that was the best time with the low margin for error (trying to stay ahead/keep up with KCs offense) and the run working successfully. Quote
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