What I would like to see the Ravens do in the draft

[papasmurfbell]

There is no way 9 players make this roster so trading up is the plan.  With the 2020 college season in doubt I would not want late picks in 21 either so use that capital to move forward now.  I would like to see them grab queen in the first.  A wr in the 2nd.  Also in the 2nd a oc/og.  3rd very good check down rb and passrish.  4th a dt and a de.  

I think only having 7 picks in the first 4 rounds makes strategic sense.

[oldno82]

Sounds like a good plan to me!

What I really don't want to see is them trading down or out of the first round to get more picks. Use a couple of the extras we have to move up and take a day one starter.

[papasmurfbell]

The only way I trade down is both mlb and a wr you don't love is there.  Maybe Love is there and they can get a premium.  Then take that capital andove up farther later in the draft.

[tsylvester]

I hope that Murray is gone when the Ravens pick. I know I am in the minority on him, but I've seen pretty much every game of his career. If you look past the stats and watch his real play you see a lot of holes. He struggles/ gets lost in coverage, alot.

He guesses often on run plays, resulting in missed tackles, big plays. Yes, he is quick and pretty fast for his size and position, but I don't think he is worth a 1st round, even late, pick.

 

Queen I like a lot, great instincts, seems to figure the game plan for the offense out more as the game goes on; reason why he seems to excel in the 4th quarters where a lot of players fade.

I do agree papa, this pandemic has me looking at this team and the next few drafts differently. This team cannot afford to miss wide outs any longer. This draft, even the few drafts have some serious talent in them. This team needs on badly, one who owns the field, who makes the plays in the 4th when they game is on the line or makes tough catches to keep series alive, for points, for eating clock, for keep away.

A middle backer, a guard/center, a wide receiver. Then just role players.. Three players, 3 positions, pick the best and target them. If they are within reach, trade up or trade out if they are not.

[papasmurfbell]

Totally agree on murray.  You see the same thing I do on Queen 

[papasmurfbell]

The wr I would like to see them draft in the 2nd is the guy from Clemson.  They are basically all nfl ready.

[vmax]

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This draft value chart is supposed to represent trade value for draft picks, as devised by Jimmy Johnson in the early 90s during his tenure as head coach of the Cowboys. It is supposed to give a numerical representation of each pick to balance out trades: by this chart, pick 16 in the first round (1000 pts) is considered equivalent to pick 31 in the first round + pick 18 in the second round (600 pts + 400 pts). Teams listed are for the 2020 draft. Compensatory picks are not included as they could not be traded when Johnson's chart was made.

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Draft Pick Value Chart

Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
1	1	3000	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
1	2	2600	Washington Redskins	2020
1	3	2200	Detroit Lions	2020
1	4	1800	New York Giants	2020
1	5	1700	Miami Dolphins	2020
1	6	1600	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
1	7	1500	Carolina Panthers	2020
1	8	1400	Arizona Cardinals	2020
1	9	1350	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
1	10	1300	Cleveland Browns	2020
1	11	1250	New York Jets	2020
1	12	1200	Oakland Raiders	2020
1	13	1150	San Francisco 49ers	2020
1	14	1100	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
1	15	1050	Denver Broncos	2020
1	16	1000	Atlanta Falcons	2020
1	17	950	Dallas Cowboys	2020
1	18	900	Miami Dolphins	2020
1	19	875	Oakland Raiders	2020
1	20	850	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
1	21	800	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
1	22	780	Minnesota Vikings	2020
1	23	760	New England Patriots	2020
1	24	740	New Orleans Saints	2020
1	25	720	Minnesota Vikings	2020
1	26	700	Miami Dolphins	2020
1	27	680	Seattle Seahawks	2020
1	28	660	Baltimore Ravens	2020
1	29	640	Tennessee Titans	2020
1	30	620	Green Bay Packers	2020
1	31	600	San Francisco 49ers	2020
1	32	590	Kansas City Chiefs	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
2	33	580	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
2	34	560	Indianapolis Colts	2020
2	35	550	Detroit Lions	2020
2	36	540	New York Giants	2020
2	37	530	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
2	38	520	Carolina Panthers	2020
2	39	510	Miami Dolphins	2020
2	40	500	Houston Texans	2020
2	41	490	Cleveland Browns	2020
2	42	480	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
2	43	470	Chicago Bears	2020
2	44	460	Indianapolis Colts	2020
2	45	450	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
2	46	440	Denver Broncos	2020
2	47	430	Atlanta Falcons	2020
2	48	420	New York Jets	2020
2	49	410	Pittsburgh Steelers	2020
2	50	400	Chicago Bears	2020
2	51	390	Dallas Cowboys	2020
2	52	380	Los Angeles Rams	2020
2	53	370	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
2	54	360	Buffalo Bills	2020
2	55	350	Baltimore Ravens	2020
2	56	340	Miami Dolphins	2020
2	57	330	Los Angeles Rams	2020
2	58	320	Minnesota Vikings	2020
2	59	310	Seattle Seahawks	2020
2	60	300	Baltimore Ravens	2020
2	61	292	Tennessee Titans	2020
2	62	284	Green Bay Packers	2020
2	63	276	Kansas City Chiefs	2020
2	64	270	Seattle Seahawks	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
3	65	265	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
3	66	260	Washington Redskins	2020
3	67	255	Detroit Lions	2020
3	68	250	New York Jets	2020
3	69	245	Carolina Panthers	2020
3	70	240	Miami Dolphins	2020
3	71	235	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
3	72	230	Arizona Cardinals	2020
3	73	225	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
3	74	220	Cleveland Browns	2020
3	75	215	Indianapolis Colts	2020
3	76	210	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
3	77	205	Denver Broncos	2020
3	78	200	Atlanta Falcons	2020
3	79	195	New York Jets	2020
3	80	190	Oakland Raiders	2020
3	81	185	Oakland Raiders	2020
3	82	180	Dallas Cowboys	2020
3	83	175	Denver Broncos	2020
3	84	170	Los Angeles Rams	2020
3	85	165	Detroit Lions	2020
3	86	160	Buffalo Bills	2020
3	87	155	New England Patriots	2020
3	88	150	New Orleans Saints	2020
3	89	145	Minnesota Vikings	2020
3	90	140	Houston Texans	2020
3	91	136	Oakland Raiders	2020
3	92	132	Baltimore Ravens	2020
3	93	128	Tennessee Titans	2020
3	94	124	Green Bay Packers	2020
3	95	120	Denver Broncos	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
4	96	116	Kansas City Chiefs	2020
4	97	112	Cleveland Browns	2020
4	98	108	New England Patriots	2020
4	99	104	New York Giants	2020
4	100	100	New England Patriots	2020
4	101	96	Seattle Seahawks	2020
4	102	92	Pittsburgh Steelers	2020
4	103	88	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
4	104	86	Los Angeles Rams	2020
4	105	84	Minnesota Vikings	2020
4	106	82	Baltimore Ravens	2020
4	107	80	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
4	108	78	Washington Redskins	2020
4	109	76	Detroit Lions	2020
4	110	74	New York Giants	2020
4	111	72	Arizona Cardinals	2020
4	112	70	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
4	113	68	Carolina Panthers	2020
4	114	66	Arizona Cardinals	2020
4	115	64	Cleveland Browns	2020
4	116	62	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
4	117	60	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
4	118	58	Denver Broncos	2020
4	119	56	Atlanta Falcons	2020
4	120	54	New York Jets	2020
4	121	52	Oakland Raiders	2020
4	122	50	Indianapolis Colts	2020
4	123	49	Dallas Cowboys	2020
4	124	48	Pittsburgh Steelers	2020
4	125	47	New England Patriots	2020
4	126	46	Los Angeles Rams	2020
4	127	45	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
5	128	44	Buffalo Bills	2020
5	129	43	Baltimore Ravens	2020
5	130	42	New Orleans Saints	2020
5	131	41	Arizona Cardinals	2020
5	132	40	Minnesota Vikings	2020
5	133	40	Seattle Seahawks	2020
5	134	39	Atlanta Falcons	2020
5	135	39	Pittsburgh Steelers	2020
5	136	38	Green Bay Packers	2020
5	137	38	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
5	138	37	Kansas City Chiefs	2020
5	139	37	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
5	140	36	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
5	141	36	Miami Dolphins	2020
5	142	35	Washington Redskins	2020
5	143	35	Baltimore Ravens	2020
5	144	34	Seattle Seahawks	2020
5	145	34	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
5	146	33	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
5	147	33	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
5	148	32	Carolina Panthers	2020
5	149	32	Detroit Lions	2020
5	150	31	New York Giants	2020
5	151	31	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
5	152	31	Miami Dolphins	2020
5	153	30	Carolina Panthers	2020
5	154	30	Miami Dolphins	2020
5	155	29	Minnesota Vikings	2020
5	156	29	San Francisco 49ers	2020
5	157	29	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
5	158	28	New York Jets	2020
5	159	28	Oakland Raiders	2020
5	160	27	Indianapolis Colts	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
6	161	27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
6	162	27	Washington Redskins	2020
6	163	26	Chicago Bears	2020
6	164	26	Dallas Cowboys	2020
6	165	25	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
6	166	25	Detroit Lions	2020
6	167	25	Buffalo Bills	2020
6	168	24	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
6	169	24	New Orleans Saints	2020
6	170	23	Baltimore Ravens	2020
6	171	23	Houston Texans	2020
6	172	23	New England Patriots	2020
6	173	22	Miami Dolphins	2020
6	174	22	Tennessee Titans	2020
6	175	21	Green Bay Packers	2020
6	176	21	San Francisco 49ers	2020
6	177	21	Kansas City Chiefs	2020
6	178	20	Denver Broncos	2020
6	179	20	Dallas Cowboys	2020
6	180	19	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
6	181	19	Denver Broncos	2020
6	182	19	Detroit Lions	2020
6	183	18	New York Giants	2020
6	184	18	Carolina Panthers	2020
6	185	17	Miami Dolphins	2020
6	186	17	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
6	187	17	Cleveland Browns	2020
6	188	16	Buffalo Bills	2020
6	189	16	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
6	190	15	Philadelphia Eagles	2020
6	191	15	New York Jets	2020
6	192	15	Green Bay Packers	2020
Round	Pick	Value	Tm	Year
7	193	14	Indianapolis Colts	2020
7	194	14	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	2020
7	195	13	New England Patriots	2020
7	196	13	Chicago Bears	2020
7	197	13	Indianapolis Colts	2020
7	198	12	Pittsburgh Steelers	2020
7	199	12	Los Angeles Rams	2020
7	200	11	Chicago Bears	2020
7	201	11	Buffalo Bills	2020
7	202	11	Arizona Cardinals	2020
7	203	10	New Orleans Saints	2020
7	204	10	New England Patriots	2020
7	205	9	Minnesota Vikings	2020
7	206	9	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
7	207	9	Minnesota Vikings	2020
7	208	8	Green Bay Packers	2020
7	209	8	Green Bay Packers	2020
7	210	7	San Francisco 49ers	2020
7	211	7	New York Jets	2020
7	212	7	New England Patriots	2020
7	213	6	New England Patriots	2020
7	214	6	Seattle Seahawks	2020
7	215	5	Cincinnati Bengals	2020
7	216	5	Washington Redskins	2020
7	217	5	San Francisco 49ers	2020
7	218	4	New York Giants	2020
7	219	4	Minnesota Vikings	2020
7	220	3	Los Angeles Chargers	2020
7	221	3	Carolina Panthers	2020
7	222	3	Arizona Cardinals	2020
7	223	2	Jacksonville Jaguars	2020
7	224	2	Tennessee Titans	2020

[oldno82]

Thanx Max...good info! I'm starting to think we should just stay where we are at 28. If anything, trade up not down.

[papasmurfbell]

Unless you don't like what's there at 28.  Both backers gone.  Top 5 wrs gone.  To me that screams trade back.  A stud ot and s better qb should be there.

[vmax]

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This year, if Baltimore wants a highly rated pass-rusher, a well-regarded “tackling machine" or a record-setting pass-catcher, the chances that LSU outside linebacker K'Lavon Chaisson, Oklahoma middle linebacker Kenneth Murray or LSU wide receiver Justin Jefferson will be available when Baltimore is on the clock with the No. 28 overall pick is less than 20 percent, according to ESPN’s NFL Draft Predictor................https://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/52077/in-2020-nfl-draft-ravens-might-make-risky-move-for-a-true-difference-maker

These guys won't be there.

 

[papasmurfbell]

Why get another small wr?  

Anyone actually watch this lb I think from Iowa?  I have heard him talked about too.

[papasmurfbell]

My fault Brooks.  I guess from Tex tech.  I guess if they miss on Queen this guy.  But I haven't seen him play.

[papasmurfbell]

I am liking how the draft is breaking down.

[papasmurfbell]

[vmax]

[oldno82]

Yes! I sweated through twenty-seven picks but we got the guy I wanted!

[papasmurfbell]

Ok looking at what's left on the board and where the Ravens sit I would love to see Lewis from bama at passrush.  If he is gone a wr.  Pref the Clemson one.

[tsylvester]

22 hours ago, papasmurfbell said:

The wr I would like to see them draft in the 2nd is the guy from Clemson.  They are basically all nfl ready.

Yep, trade up as high as you think you need to go to get him.

[vmax]

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Ravens General Manager Eric DeCosta said in a virtual press conference Thursday night that he thinks this draft is “the start of something.”

“We’re excited to get Patrick Queen to Baltimore,” DeCosta said. “He’s a guy that really fits us. He’s an explosive player sideline to sideline. He is equally adept in coverage and also against the run. He’s a good blitzer, he’s a guy that plays like a Raven. I think he’s a great fit for Baltimore, and we’re really excited to have him.”

Head Coach John Harbaugh also echoed DeCosta’s praise of Queen.

“His best football is in front of him and he’s got some really good tape behind him,” Harbaugh said. “He plays fast, great blitzer like Eric [DeCosta] said.”....................

https://twitter.com/i/status/1253536543001755649

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"I'm not going to lie to you man, I'm so tired of hearing that," Queen said about the criticism for being undersized. "I heard it all the way through college. It didn't matter. I played perfectly fine. Coming into the league, I'm going to be strong, I'm going to be fast, and I'm going to be smart and just try to bring that mentality I had in college into the NFL and turn it up a lot more. I feel like I haven't even reached my full potential yet, so the sky is the limit."...............https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29092590/lamar-jackson-labels-new-ravens-lb-patrick-queen-ray-lewis-jr

 

[vmax]

What’s next: The Ravens can address needs at wide receiver, interior offensive line and pass-rusher on Day 2, when they have a total of four picks. Baltimore has two picks in the second round (No. 55 from the trade of tight end Hayden Hurst to Atlanta and No. 60) and two selections in the third round (No. 92 and a compensatory pick at No. 106). The Ravens haven’t made a pick in the second round since 2017, when they selected outside linebacker Tyus Bowser.

 

It was a long wait to #28....and worth it but Tonight our heads will be spinning with all the good choices that Eric will have.

He has a feast laid out in front of him.

Edited April 24, 2020 by vmax

[papasmurfbell]

24 minutes ago, tsylvester said:

Yep, trade up as high as you think you need to go to get him.

Use rounds 5 and 7 this yr.  Also next yrs 4th and back to move around.

[vmax]

LOL!

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by vmax

[papasmurfbell]

So in the 2nd I would like to see 2 of the following guys picked.  Lewis, Quisrnberry, or higgins.  Trading up is just fine with me to get the 2.  

[tsylvester]

Use a 3rd & a 4th to move up for Higgins, get a 7th back or a low pick next year. Other shots, Epenesa from Iowa, Delpit, LSU and Winfield Jr, Minnesota. I know, they dont really need another safety or corner but those later two would be great value and lock the secondary down for years.

Mims is interesting in the 2nd, but I question his hands, route running etc. More of a late 3rd pick imo.

[tsylvester]

55 minutes ago, papasmurfbell said:

So in the 2nd I would like to see 2 of the following guys picked.  Lewis, Quisrnberry, or higgins.  Trading up is just fine with me to get the 2.  

Eh, not thrilled with Lewis, he gets lazy often, typical Bama lineman, his success is more on the talent he plays against & with. If you watch him against the better teams he doesn't show up..

 

I would prefer Davis from Auburn, much better prospect.