Spen Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 The opening drive of the 2nd half was a killer Quote
vmax Posted November 16, 2020 Author Posted November 16, 2020 The news gets worse: Derrick Henry is watching this game. Quote
varaven45 Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 That was damn fugly tonight. Didn’t recognize this team after last weeks W in Indy. It’s only 1 game but this team just isn’t right this year. Quote
oldno82 Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 One big difference between last year and this year is I notice the team isn't having fun anymore even when the team still has a good chance to win. They get down too easy when they get behind even by a small margin. You have to be able to come from behind and win; sometimes, at least. Quote
varaven45 Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Agreed. This year’s team lacks the character, enthusiasm and chemistry of last years squad. Of course, winning cures all. So now lets see how this years squad responds to adversity after an embarrassing loss. They’ve got a lot of work ahead of them. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Until such a time as the coaches start putting the players in a place to succeed. Quote
tsylvester Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Penalties, blown coverages, turnovers, bad snaps, poor decisions, just another big game where the team looks unprepared, undisciplined. This was a big game against a bad team. The same mistakes keep happening. Lamar shows he still can't throw outside the numbers, I will say, the receivers running their routes tight to the boundary line don't help, neither does throwing into double coverage. Play calling suspect, coaching is a big issue when your team keeps making the same mistakes. Scoring only 17 pts, even with strong drives, mistakes stopped this offense not the Pats defense; that is sad. The depleted dedense did what it could, only 135 yards passing, but they got gutted on the ground, 173 yards, fooled by the same plays they see in practice every week; that is truly sad. No excuse I honestly don't know if they can fix this-this year. What, are they going ro suddenly start lining up properly, snapping the ball properly, look snaps into their hands, run routes properly, make the right read suddenly? Quote
vmax Posted November 16, 2020 Author Posted November 16, 2020 They better get it together fast or they will be 6-5 after the Titans and Steelers games. So far, to no avail, we keep looking for improvement and trying to see if this team can find their identity, rhythm and consistency. They fail at coming from behind and at finding ways to win. That is behind the curve of qualities that legit playoff contenders have. Other teams are accomplishing that after slow starts to their seasons. They are stuck in quicksand and better get out before they are swallowed up. Quote
Spen Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Lamar needs to be better. 70% completion percentage in the monsoon that was last night - unacceptable! But he's not throwing it where I think he should! Playing in a cold windy rainy game which numerous players were hurt, at least 1 seriously - why aren't they having more fun? Edited November 16, 2020 by Spen Quote
tsylvester Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Spen, it's not that we want him to throw it somewhere, it is that he is not, either by play design, inept recievers, or his inability, to tale advantage of man coverage with game changing throws, plays. Sure, use the excuse of the weather, or use his completion % to say he played great; not untrue. However, you, he, the team, have said how smart he is, doesn't make the same mistakes, but the truth is, he threw into double coverage; again. He was picked off once, should have had two interceptions but the defender dropped the pass. That pass was late, on a crossing route, and he did not, once again, see the underneath coverage. Even if the defender was not there no way that pass is completed, it was late and thrown short. This was the first game this year where he tried to throw a go route, but it was into double coverage, late, and to the wrong side of the receiver. He should have seen the coverage at the presnap read; safety on that side of the numbers in man coverage means that route on that play was not the throw to make. But either he didn't make the right read, or he chose to ignore it for some reason. Either way that speaks volumes. Sure, every qb makes tht mistake from time to time. Yet, given his play this year, his play in college where it was clear he could not read a defense (by this read my other comments on how to properly read a defense), and it appears that he still cannot and that is alarming. Last year he got away with it because defenses were not ready for him, more worried about his running, so they left openings. This year, they have stopped his running, gone to man on the outside, zone underneath to hem him in, this leaves the middle somewhat open for short, intermediate passes over the middle when the linebackers either split too wide or don't drop deep enough. This means he can complete easy passes in front of him, and at a rate of 70%, but that means long drives. Those long drives = punt when you factor in the penalties, the mistakes, as we see this year. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 T I an going to steal this analysis and post it on fb. Well done. Quote
tsylvester Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Have at it papa, I stand by it to anyone. Quote
oldno82 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 10 hours ago, vmax said: They better get it together fast or they will be 6-5 after the Titans and Steelers games. So far, to no avail, we keep looking for improvement and trying to see if this team can find their identity, rhythm and consistency. They fail at coming from behind and at finding ways to win. That is behind the curve of qualities that legit playoff contenders have. Other teams are accomplishing that after slow starts to their seasons. They are stuck in quicksand and better get out before they are swallowed up. Unfortunately, I don't see a quick way out of it. They could cut down on penalties...some of those are killing them. And no it's not all Lamar's fault but he does get a bit of blame. The biggest thing that's a killer is the O-line and they did perform better when they benched Fluker (good move by Harbaugh, by the way) but they are way short on personnel on that line with Stanley out and Yanda gone. The rest of the guys are at playing fair and all of them are still learning. Brown made the shift to LT and is playing pretty well. Not worried about him. But what about the new OL guys? How are they playing? And did Skura forget how to play Center or is his finger cut much more serious?? Ingram seems to have lost something too...looks like endurance maybe. But, Dobbins and Gus are playing real well. Meanwhile we still have no functioning Wide Receivers. What's up with that? Then there's the defense which has looked horrible the past two games as the competition has ramped up. If this team beats the Titans and then the Steelers, well then they will have made back to back 'statement' games. It's a big IF but they can still go for a SB if they show they can beat those two. I'm sure as hell rooting for them! Quote
papasmurfbell Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 I think switching Bozeman and Skura would be wise. Bozeman has had tons of experience there at a high level. Skura can just be left to blcok. Quote
Spen Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 I've been critical of him, well really just critical of a WR corp where he is a #1, but Snead has really shown up the past few weeks. Quote
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