tsylvester Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Yes, not sure how this team will respond to playing right after a London game. Teams are not only lethargic when playing over seas, but they also have to deal with the trip back. Will the team's choice not to take their bye week now come back to bite them like a lion on a gazelle? So who are the Lions? Detroit is riding high, over performing to some, but they are their record, 5-1, 5th offensively averaging 259.5 per games through the air, with 11 tds to 3 picks, Goff has been sacked 10 times. They are averaging 124.2, on the ground, 4.0 per carry, with 9 rushing tds Defensively, they are 18th against the pass, 221 yards via the pass, allowing 8 tds, with 6 picks, and 15 sacks and 64.7 rushing yards per game. They are holding teams to 18.8 pts per game, and to 33% on 3rd downs. They are 7th in total defense. Of Note; they have won 4 in a row, all by 14 pts or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Detroit is real. It will be them SF and Philthy at the end fighting for a SB spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Lions have the most legit QB we've played thus far, but who have they played? Nobody earth shattering. We can win this one. Offense just needs to get out of their 2nd half rut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 I think the offense is slowly coming into its own. We've seen glimpses of it over the past five games. They have scored first in every game, some with opening drives, some with touchdowns others with field goals. Red zone to start was outstanding, some hiccups lately, maybe play calling at fault, maybe performance, dropped passes, missed open receivers, lack of patience/ vision in running. They have no truly been at full strength until this past game, just needed to knock the rust off. Could the Ravens offense being on the cusp of dominating? Putting a full game together? No doubt this defense will be tested as never this year, but Goff has shown, if you pressure him he will toss a pick or two... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The Lions are a good team. The Ravens look like they're getting ready to turn the corner into playing up to their potential. Just wish the offense would look as good in the 2nd half as they do in the first. Not only are they playing inconsistently between games they are doing so in-game. Monken's opening drive game plan has been flawless but something is still lacking as the game progresses. Appears to be a mixture of poor execution and questionable play calling as game moves in to the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Regarding above, see https://theathletic.com/4968567/2023/10/17/ravens-patrick-queen-geno-stone-contracts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 I don't think they will be able to afford Queen, I think they can find a version of Queen in the draft, maybe even via free agency cheep. Like Ray, Agent 0 will make his playing partner better. Stone, now there is a good question. Williams has just been snake bit since coming here, when he has played, wow, excellent. But he hasn't played many games because of serious injuries, not just those pesky nit picking ones. Stone clearly had learned a lot from Williams, he has upped his game 10 fold over the past 2 seasons. Whether as a safety in coverage or down in the box, as a slot corner, he is a Leatherman (yes better than a Swiss army knife). I think and would agree, they will try to pay Stone, maybe even at the expense of cutting Williams if they have to for cap reasons. There are a few very good safeties in the draft, see that as cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 11 hours ago, GrubberRaven said: Lions have the most legit QB we've played thus far, but who have they played? Nobody earth shattering. We can win this one. Offense just needs to get out of their 2nd half rut. KC is a huge win. Sea is no pushover either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Queen has been a monster this year. I'm not so sure it will be easy to replace him with somebody who has equivalent production. It is true Smith made him better. I have a feeling we'll miss Queen next year though. Agree that it's more prudent to keep Stone than Williams. Makes the most sense both cap and availability wise. Speaking of cap space, we signed OBJ to a one year $15 million salary contract but when I look at Sportrac's cap table it shows we'll carry $11 million in dead money in 2024 for him. Can someone explain why that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Because they played cap games with his contract, they pushed that $11 mil into next year. Since it is a one year deal, and he is not expected to be on the team next season, dead cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Oh…OK. I guess I didn’t realize a team could do that with the cap. I thought since it was salary and not a bonus they’d have to eat the whole thing in this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 Yeah, it is not a practice the Ravens normally use, but with Lamar's contract, they have used it a few times with other players rather than extend players as they used to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Back to the Lions….. they are a balanced, hungry, and well coached team. From what I’ve seen, they are playing complimentary football with a sense of urgency and energy. This team plays extremely hard for it s coach. Make no mistake, this will be our toughest game to date. If we put forth an effort like the Steelers and Colts game, we’ll go down. if we do all three things - play error free ball, convert most of our red zone opps, and Harbs stays away from the momentum killing decisions (e.g. passing on FGs), we have a chance to pull of a victory. Anything less than all three, we’ll come up short. Don’t have a clue which team will show up, but Detroit is for real and better than any team we’ve seen thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 They will be the best team we've seen so far. Like you said, we need to play a game where we limit dropped passes, fumbles, and risky coaching decisions. Our defense is good and they will be ready to play. The offense is the big question. We also have to play the game with a psyched up spirit on both sides of the ball. And dammit we have to be consistently good throughout the whole game for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Its funny. To win we have to not do what we do every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 Everyone was worried about the pass rush, what were the Ravens going to do to get pressure on the pocket, get sacks. They stand tied for the league lead with 24 sacks, many, many more pressures. If they can keep that up, Clowney has been an animal fighting the pocket, VanNoy and Mabeke as well, we might see a lot of turnovers from Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Yup the pressure has been solid. Great scheming by McDonald according to Clowney who loves playing for him. I'm looking forward to this game. Might just be a very good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Im worried Clowny is playing to many snaps and will be no tread left by Dec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 The bye week will do him good as will some players coming back to take some reps away. They have been playing Harrison there the last game or two, a much better fit for him, he is not an inside backer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Win the toss, take the ball... limit the touches of the Lions offense Hill to start at back again, they clearly want more speed in the back field. I wonder, maybe they are also show casing him for trade bait? Nice play on the zone read, a quick toss to Obj for a first down. Play action, plenty of time, finds Flowers in the 2nd window for 46. Another play action, time, can't find anyone, runs for 2 2nd & 8 from the 16 of the Lions, Gus up the middle for 5 3rd and 3 from the 9 Oh he looked at Likely,, but runs for 2, 4th and 1, going for it Fake hand off, runs around left end, Touchdown Ravens! Stanley leads the way! Woo Hoo! 7-0 Ravens, just over 10 mins left in the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 plays, 75 yards in 4:23, once again they are the first team to score and, they easily score in the redzone Now what can the defense do Big mistake by the special teams, short kick sets the Lions up at their 38 Crowd is amped Run off of their right side for 4 Throws to the left flat, incomplete 3rd and 6 Major pressure, sacked Madebeke and company! Well done he and Pierce, caused a fumble as well Fair catch interference will set the Ravens up at the 32 8:21 left in the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Pass to Andrews, who was open, too far inside, incomplete Pass in the direction of Andrews on 3rd and 7, incomplete but illegal contact keeps the drive alive. Possible intentional grounding, penalties off set Andrews ran inside route, Lamar threw an outside route Boutz is picked up, Lamar finds Bateman over the middle for 20 Gus over the left, gets enveloped for no gain 7:00 From the 50 Plenty of time, finds Bateman for 20 on the right side Gus to the left following a pulling Moses, gain of 9 5:40 Play fake, side arms to Bateman off target 3rd and 1 Back to Pass, can't find anyone, escapes to the left for 5 yards 4:50 Hutchenson forces him to flee, gain of 3 Under 4 mins left in the 1st from the 16 Pass to Obj in the left flat 4 Dancing around, avoiding a sack, finds Algalor in the endzone, touchdown Ravens! Woo Hoo! 14-0 Ravens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Defense, your turn! Wow, 9.8 seconds on that play, we'll done Oline, Lamar and the receivers to keep working! 11 plays, 68 yards, 5:46 and once again, touchdown in the redzone 3:11 left in the first, Lions 2nd possession Crowd is jacked! Blitz, dump down to the back for 2 yard gain Run to the right for 4 3rd and 4 A little pressure, pass to the right, incomplete, great coverage, Queen is down 4th down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 3rd possession in the 1st quarter, Queen walked off on his own, good sign 1:59 left in the 1st quarter Monster punt forces a fair catch inside the 10 yard line Need at least a first down, give the punter some room Pass to Pbj at the 28 All day to throw, pass to Andrews just too high. Holding on Stanley 1st and 20 1 min Flips one to Flowers in the right flat, too high 2nd and 20 Hill to the left gets 9 3rd and 11 Pass to deep left to Flowers for 20, end of 1st! Great first quarter by both offense and defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 Here we go From the 49 Riccardo wide open off of play fake for a gain of 30 A flip to Mitchel who make a man miss with a great move for a gain of 9 Wide receiver screen to Flowers for 4 From the 11 Andrews in the flat, puts on the speed, dives, Touchdown Ravens! 12:54 left in the half 21-0 Ravens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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