Robjr83 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 This is a Rooney Rule look. Had a pathetic Colts team, then had one worst offenses in Ravens history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I really hope PSU hires a crappy coach.If they get Al Golden that is a big time hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 @RavensInsider: John Wooten said Jim Caldwell interview with Lions was 'exceptional, outstanding,' will hear back in a few days @RavensInsider: Jim Caldwell met with ownership and quarterback Matthew Stafford during his interview with the Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 If they get Al Golden that is a big time hire.That would be horrible for the terps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Anyone watching the wild card game? See how much more you can get out of an offense with a quick, very, receiver? Yeldon, lightening quick, a similar player the Ravens need. He would open up Smith and Jones deep and even Pita down the seam.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 If there parts were used better I think they could open guys up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 If there parts were used better I think they could open guys up. Some what agree. Again though, the receivers were struggling to get off the los in press coverage and even in soft zone, they took a bit long to get into their routes and in position to make a catch. Smith gets easily pushed to the sidelines on the go route, leaving Flacco little room to make the throw. He also floats when looking for the ball, which makes the catch that much harder, the chance of completion lesser. Jones just doesn't run good routes and Brown was still learning the offense, his keys, trusting him to make the right read was a crap shoot. So you can stack them, plit them, have crossing routes & rubs, but when the receivers slow run because they are unsure of their route or run it too fast, it all leads to sacks, picks, incompletes. I think I said this earlier, but the Ravens, even under Harbs, have never developed a receiver, Smith is the closest they have come and he still has a ways to go. I sometimes wonder if they kept the same receivers coach all this time, but know they have changed. I would change them again. This is the place they really mised Boldin was teaching the younger receivers, not so much on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Stacking WR's, rubs, picks, and motion can get you some free targets. You just have to do it. Great offenses do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Stacking WR's, rubs, picks, and motion can get you some free targets. You just have to do it. Great offenses do it. The Ravens did it often, the players could not execute them very well, thus my point. There is far more to a play success than just what we think we see on tv. Do you have the NFL network all 22? I highly recommend it if you really want to see the issues I point out. Teams don't respect the Ravens receivers on the outside, one on one coverage. They then clog the middle so even rub routes do not work properly when a receiver makes it obvious, in the first few steps, what they are going to do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 That would be horrible for the terps.I could care less about the Terps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The Ravens did it often, the players could not execute them very well, thus my point. There is far more to a play success than just what we think we see on tv. Do you have the NFL network all 22? I highly recommend it if you really want to see the issues I point out. Teams don't respect the Ravens receivers on the outside, one on one coverage. They then clog the middle so even rub routes do not work properly when a receiver makes it obvious, in the first few steps, what they are going to do....I have to agree. I can't ever remember us having a quick (as opposed to fast) receiver. But Pops makes some good points as I can't say I ever remember us running picks for our pass plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have to agree. I can't ever remember us having a quick (as opposed to fast) receiver. But Pops makes some good points as I can't say I ever remember us running picks for our pass plays. They've run picks/rubs for years, including this year. Now my memory is not as good as it used to be so forgive me for not saying which games, but they have used them, Caldwell loves using them. He is a master at creating open receivers with tiered sets. However, as I said, it is up to the players to execute. This is why i question the positional coaches, not just the offensive line (as I type, SD has changed centers and not missed a beat), but receivers especially. Either they, the front office, can't draft smart players at this position or the coaches are not teaching them properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 The Ravens did it often, the players could not execute them very well, thus my point. There is far more to a play success than just what we think we see on tv. Do you have the NFL network all 22? I highly recommend it if you really want to see the issues I point out. Teams don't respect the Ravens receivers on the outside, one on one coverage. They then clog the middle so even rub routes do not work properly when a receiver makes it obvious, in the first few steps, what they are going to do....Believe me when I see a pick or rub I am shocked. They did it very little. I could care less about the Terps.I want the Terps to not be seller dwellers in the Big 10. If PSU goes through a down time it gives UMD time to get on its feet. I have to agree. I can't ever remember us having a quick (as opposed to fast) receiver. But Pops makes some good points as I can't say I ever remember us running picks for our pass plays.Basic things to get WR's open is rare here. Defenders are to good now to not help to get them open. They've run picks/rubs for years, including this year. Now my memory is not as good as it used to be so forgive me for not saying which games, but they have used them, Caldwell loves using them. He is a master at creating open receivers with tiered sets. However, as I said, it is up to the players to execute. This is why i question the positional coaches, not just the offensive line (as I type, SD has changed centers and not missed a beat), but receivers especially. Either they, the front office, can't draft smart players at this position or the coaches are not teaching them properly.The only pick I saw this season was about 2 games ago. The only one I saw under Cam was in a Steelers game against Pitt about 3 yrs ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Well, you can't go by just what is seen on tv, use the all 22, you will see many more times they used it, or tried to and the players just did not execute. You can't use them in every game, they don't work, can't work against a zone defense, only man or match up zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wlel I don't have the NFL net but I am good at spotting them. The media says it too so I would say it doesn't happen nearly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Wlel I don't have the NFL net but I am good at spotting them. The media says it too so I would say it doesn't happen nearly enough. Which media, our local media? they say a lot, just to get people calling, texting, emailing, talking about them.... doesn't mean it is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldno82 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We also need more team quickness. A lot of our guys, both offense and defense, look like they're always moving around in a pot of hot glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Caldwell is going for his second interview with the Skids. I understand that a hc job is an honor in this league, but that circus in DC he should avoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I agree they are a mess. But after what happened here he might be trying to escape this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsylvester Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I agree they are a mess. But after what happened here he might be trying to escape this mess. Or he wants to be a head coach, which is more likely. The only way to get better at interviews is to go on interviews... If you don't interview well, you won't get the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercleetz Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Caldwell could be a Snyder guy. High profile guys won't want to coach under Snyder as they won't have control. A more low key guy like Caldwell could be what he is looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjr83 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think Calds knows going into this that Snyder runs the show. If he wants a HC job he'll have to deal with bad teams or meddlesome owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Caldwell could be a Snyder guy. High profile guys won't want to coach under Snyder as they won't have control. A more low key guy like Caldwell could be what he is looking for.Agreed. You will not be incharge in DC or Dal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 We need the Skins to take Caldwell so we can obtain an effective OC. Imagine the mess if Caldwell were to stick around in 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubberRaven Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 When was our last effective OC...I mean, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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