oldno82 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Billick was a great organizer and did a lot for managing the team and, initially, the media. He certainly proved to be weak on fixing a broken offense. But I think he belongs in the ROH. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Billick was a great organizer and did a lot for managing the team and, initially, the media. He certainly proved to be weak on fixing a broken offense. But I think he belongs in the ROH.then you have to put others in there for being a good organizer, like Art's secretary Even Billick him self came out and said that the best thing he did for that team was to just step out of the way,, just ride wave.I'll give him that. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Please stop a attaching Billick's name with a real HC.Like trying to pass a bill in Washington. As Max alluded to, just look at Billicks coaching tree, its as impressive as Bill Walshs' Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 As Max alluded to, just look at Billicks coaching tree, its as impressive as Bill Walshs'Assistant coaches under Brian Billick that became NFL head coaches:Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars (2003–2011)Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals (2003–present)Mike Nolan, San Francisco 49ers (2005–2008)Rex Ryan, New York Jets (2009–present)Mike Singletary, San Francisco 49ers (2008–2010)Mike Smith, Atlanta Falcons (2008–present)Mike Pettine, Cleveland Browns (2014–present) Anything stand out there to ya?What was it that Ray Lewis said? If you want to be a head coach in the NFL then come coach me? Quote
oldno82 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 then you have to put others in there for being a good organizer, like Art's secretary Even Billick him self came out and said that the best thing he did for that team was to just step out of the way,, just ride wave.I'll give him that.Disagree. As much as I was glad to see Billick go, he got Baltimore its first Super Bowl in 30 years. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Disagree. As much as I was glad to see Billick go, he got Baltimore its first Super Bowl in 30 years. If you go back and watch that season I think you will find that it was Ray Lewis that did that. Quote
RavenMad Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 As Max alluded to, just look at Billicks coaching tree, its as impressive as Bill Walshs'Isn't Billick part of Walsh's tree. Quote
vmax Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 If you go back and watch that season I think you will find that it was Ray Lewis that did that. I will not argue that at all. Quote
vmax Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 Isn't Billick part of Walsh's tree. Yes...and he co authored a book with Bill..... If you read the book, then you'll see all the organizational skills and structure that be brought to the Ravens.I really think they would still be "The Browns" if he had not done that.He was a great hire. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Every tree has bad apples, Billick was just a lucky bad apple Quote
Robjr83 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 To me Oz built the SB team. Drafting two HOF players and adding key FA with Sharpe,Woodson,Goose etc Quote
cravnravn Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 To me Oz built the SB team. Drafting two HOF players and adding key FA with Sharpe,Woodson,Goose etcAnd that's exactly what it takes to build a super bowl team, a strong gm. Assistant coaches under Brian Billick that became NFL head coaches:Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars (2003–2011)Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals (2003–present)Mike Nolan, San Francisco 49ers (2005–2008)Rex Ryan, New York Jets (2009–present)Mike Singletary, San Francisco 49ers (2008–2010)Mike Smith, Atlanta Falcons (2008–present)Mike Pettine, Cleveland Browns (2014–present) Anything stand out there to ya?What was it that Ray Lewis said? If you want to be a head coach in the NFL then come coach me? And Ray has the right to make that claim, he has the hardware to back it up. Nothing wrong with that list except Marvin Lewis Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 If you go back and watch that season I think you will find that it was Ray Lewis that did that.I would say it was Sharle and Woodson moreso in that season. Every tree has bad apples, Billick was just a lucky bad appleThat is beautifully said. To me Oz built the SB team. Drafting two HOF players and adding key FA with Sharpe,Woodson,Goose etcThat is what I say. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 So RM, and Pops think it was all oz and Billick had nothing to do with our success? Thats ridiculous, Billick had much to do with 200 as Oz did. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 I think he had very little to do with it. He was just barely competent. I think say Marvin Lewis would have done an even better job just throwing out a name. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I think he had very little to do with it. He was just barely competent. I think say Marvin Lewis would have done an even better job just throwing out a name. now thats funny...Marvin Lewis couldnt teach a cat to shit in a litter box Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 So Cincy is worse now than when Marvin got there? I love Ravens fans revisionist history after people leave. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 What exactly has he won? Marvin has had numerous bad years and kept his job, Billick has 1 and is fired, Marvin has nudy shots of mike brown is all I can think of Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 A hell of a lot more games than Cincy won before he walked in the door. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 A hell of a lot more games than Cincy won before he walked in the door. So 500 ball is satisfactory? He's been their coach for 11 years now, they havent even come close to a playoff win, hes had better talent, they have had top 12 picks in the draft for half of his time there. Marvin wasnt part of Billick tree, he was here under Teddy.Any other team in the NFL he'd been out of a job, Bengal Super Bowls consist of winning the AFCN Quote
papasmurfbell Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 He is better than .500. Also he still has to deal with Mike Brown. Say he had Ozzie to get him talent I think they would be far more successful on getting talent. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Look who Marvin has drafted over the years with his first rd picks, they were just as good as ours..We find better talent in the later rounds, where as Marvin and the bungles like to go after free agents. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 I would say so, Look at their draft from 2003 on, and Ocho Stinko and Housh came in 2001, they dam had the fire power to WIN 1 playoff game.. Quote
cravnravn Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 For what its worth, Marvin is 5 games over 500.. Where as Billick is 16 over 500, and was FIRED Quote
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