cravnravn Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 To the Skids.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Early reports say for Doug Dutch, a 2nd year CB from Michigan who went undrafted and then didn't make the team last year or the Las Vegas Locomotives. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravnravn Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 UPDATE: Beck has been traded to the Washington Redskins in exchange for cornerback Doug Dutch, a former University of Michigan player. The former Miami Dolphins second-round draft pick was with the Ravens last season. He was competing with Troy Smith to be the third quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I guess Troy is staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 The Ravens traded fourth-string quarterback John Beck to the Washington Redskins for cornerback Doug Dutch, who was on the Redskins' practice squad last season. This marks the first player trade between the regional rivals. Dutch, 24, is 5 feet 11, 199 pounds. He was undrafted coming out of Michigan in 2009 and was added to the Redskins' practice squad in November. This move adds depth to the Ravens' injury-filled cornerback group. I get this for depth but damn is that all we could get. For goodness sakes, Beck, for a foreskins practice squad CB.In case sales, thats like trading in a used, mid size dependable Toyota or Honda for a dang Yugo. I wasnt expect a starting CB or even a 2nd teamer, but s practice squad CB ? The Dutch era begins !! Cmon Ozzie ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 There is nobody to be had. You can't just walk into Wal Mart and pick a starting CB off the shelf. You have what you have now. This yr with no cap you will not even get cap casualties like other yrs. Ozzie simply didn't cross all the t's and dot all the i's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varaven45 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 There is nobody to be had. You can't just walk into Wal Mart and pick a starting CB off the shelf. You have what you have now. This yr with no cap you will not even get cap casualties like other yrs. Ozzie simply didn't cross all the t's and dot all the i's. Whose talking starting CB ? We got us a Yugo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 There is nobody to be had. You can't just walk into Wal Mart and pick a starting CB off the shelf. You have what you have now. This yr with no cap you will not even get cap casualties like other yrs. Ozzie simply didn't cross all the t's and dot all the i's. Agreed. And what is it we are looking for, starting CBs! And If there will be a trade for a starting CB, we would have to give up a lot more than Beck, probably something starting with a firstround pick and a proven starter. For now it will only be the Walkers, Ivys and Oglesbys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Exactly. CB is one of the hardest positions to find and they are not given away lightly. Ask the skins if they screwed up trading for Portis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
52isUnstoppable Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 I guess Troy is staying.If I was Ozzie I would be on the phone with the Vikes trying to move Troy for a CB. Looks like they only 4 CBs on their roster though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 If I was Ozzie I would be on the phone with the Vikes trying to move Troy for a CB. Looks like they only 4 CBs on their roster though. Bulger could get you a better CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 After one practice, newly signed Ravens cornerback Doug Dutch might want to go back to Washington. Receivers Anquan Boldin and Donte' Stallworth easily beat Dutch several times. The Ravens traded backup quarterback John Beck to Washington on Monday for Dutch. Now the Ravens might ask for a rebate.http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2010/08/preston_blog.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
52isUnstoppable Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 We r in deep, deep doo doo. At this point mattison needs to focus strictly on the pass rush because thats the only thing that can save us now. And its gonna have to come from the linemen because we r gonna need to drop our lbs back in coverage alot. We should consider going back to the 4-6 buddy ryan D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmax Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 We r in deep, deep doo doo. At this point mattison needs to focus strictly on the pass rush because thats the only thing that can save us now. And its gonna have to come from the linemen because we r gonna need to drop our lbs back in coverage alot. We should consider going back to the 4-6 buddy ryan D you got it 52... “I still have got to improve on my pass-rushing [ability],” Ngata said. “That’s one thing I’m focusing more on now.”http://blogs.baltimoreravens.com/2010/08/03/ngata-broadening-game-to-pass-rush/ Greg Mattison, the Ravens' defensive coordinator, is not a proponent of blitzes. Perhaps you have heard him expound on this. He believes you're eventually going to lose if you take too many defenders out of your pass coverage too often, leaving the cornerbacks to fend for themselves. You just can't let your cornerbacks go it alone, Mattison believes, not with the pro game being so pass-happy today. We can debate the merits of his philosophy as opposed to that of his predecessor, Rex Ryan, who loved to blitz. Fans loved Ryan's aggressive style, but Mattison's defense wound up playing well at the end of last season. In any case, by believing in rushing just four without a blitz, Mattison is asking the players on the defensive front to beat their blockers one-on-one and apply the necessary pressure – the ends and a linebacker from "the edge" and the tackles "pushing the pocket" from the middle. And who on the Ravens' front is the rush specialist? That would be Suggs.http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2010/08/Eisenberg_-_Suggs_Is_Key_In_Filling_Void_Left_By_Fox.aspx Getting the pressure from 4 is the major emphasis this camp. Greg has the talent to pull it off. Even Cody knocked a ball down today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinmaniac52 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Just so you know,Doug Dutch was waived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I don't see what the problem is. We would have been cutting Beck anyway once camp was over. We at least tried to get a CB for him and it didn't work out. Big deal, move on. That is what the Ravens did and now they traded for another CB. I doubt the Seahawks would have wanted Beck for Wilson anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Would've rather gotten a draft pick, I'm sure they would've given us one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurfbell Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 It was a cut for cut trade. They needed a warm body at CB. They got Dutch. No big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 It was a cut for cut trade. They needed a warm body at CB. They got Dutch. No big deal.Cut for cut my ass. Two days after Ravens cut CB Doug Dutch, Washington signs QB John Beck to two-year, $2.25M extension. The trade for Miller makes up for this, but Beck had way better value than we got for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceEight Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Cut for cut my ass. Two days after Ravens cut CB Doug Dutch, Washington signs QB John Beck to two-year, $2.25M extension. The trade for Miller makes up for this, but Beck had way better value than we got for him.Not according to the people who decide that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Not according to the people who decide that.Clearly Washington disagrees. As did Miami, who drafted him in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenMad Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Clearly Washington disagrees. As did Miami, who drafted him in the 2nd round. How did Miami agree? They cut him and we signed him as a free agent to carry a clipboard. He was familiar with Cam's system hence we signed him but even that couldn't save him once we signed Bulger. Washington signed him because there wasn't a lot left out there and McNabb is already hurt so they needed someone to suit up as a backup QB for a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincac Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 How did Miami agree? They cut him and we signed him as a free agent to carry a clipboard. He was familiar with Cam's system hence we signed him but even that couldn't save him once we signed Bulger. Washington signed him because there wasn't a lot left out there and McNabb is already hurt so they needed someone to suit up as a backup QB for a couple of weeks.2 Years =/ 2 Weeks. I don't care that much about this, so I'm done debating it, but clearly we COULD have gotten more than essentially nothing for Beck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 2 Years =/ 2 Weeks. I don't care that much about this, so I'm done debating it, but clearly we COULD have gotten more than essentially nothing for Beck. Agreed. It was a two years extension so it is three years! Bulgers salary for one single season more than Becks three years, so they can probably cut him with few complications. Becks value = Nada. It was a curious deal. I believe it was first of all a friendly gesture to Beck and the Ravens needed a body here and now, they liked Dutch still they could have had another body or what ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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