Cam Cameron Fired

[deeshopper]

Replaced by quarterbacks coach, apparently. As being reported by Adam Schefter. Story developing.

[deeshopper]

The Baltimore Ravens dismissed offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and replaced him with quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

 

 

Cameron's dismissal comes after the Ravens' overtime loss to the Redskins on Sunday, their second straight defeat.

Cameron joined the Ravens in 2008 after he was fired as the coach of the Dolphins following a 1-15 season.

Caldwell joined the Ravens after being fired by the Colts following Indianapolis' 2-14 season in 2011.

 

http://espn.go.com/n...ab-jim-caldwell

[papasmurfbell]

HAHAHA. I bet this distroyed Harbs.

[vmax]

Caldwell's never called a play.

 

But Cam should be gone. There is too much talent on offense to be consistentlyvranked in the middle of the pack.

The final "no try for points at the end of the first half did it for me.

 

This was Steve "we like a fire under Cam" Bichiotti's call. He threw gas on that fire.

Maybe Joe's input and comments did him in also.

 

Let's hope Joe takes off like Rivers and Breed did once Cam was removed from them.

 

 

 

[papasmurfbell]

This offense might bet worse this season than it is now.

[thundercleetz]

I think at the very least this move will improve communication between the players and the gameplan. Cam was notorious for next taking player input and being inflexible with the gameplan. If we are going to commit to Joe the next five or six years we need to know if he is the problem or if Cam is the problem. Firing Cam is the only way to find out for sure what type of QB Joe is. If Joe excels under Caldwell, great. If not, and Norv Turner is out there, get Norv. If Joe cannot excel under Norv, then he never will. But that is down the line.

[smokeyjon]

WOW. Unexpected. As much as I hate to say it I wish they had waited until after the season though.

 

I hope they prove me wrong!

 

edit: More accurately I wish they had done it before the season, but you know what I mean

[varaven45]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Well, it will be a small small sample size (3 reg season games; hopefully post season) for the Flacco/Caldwell experiment.

Oh well, sometimes you've got to mix things up. Maybe change will be good and give Joe a new lease on life. Besides, Caldwell is bound to give Rice more touches.

 

[Robjr83]

This move has only been 1 1/2 years in the making. It should have happened after Houston.

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It should have happened after NE in Jan.

[thundercleetz]

You guys want to read somethign really interesting read this topic over on the Orioles Hangout:

 

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/128862-Cam-Cameron-Fired!-Replaced-by-Caldwell

[vmax]

Every week Harbaugh talks about getting better. The offense hasn't done that since he's been here.

 

.....The offense just seemed stuck in neutral, forever caught in various philosophical quandaries. To run or pass more? To huddle or not? To give the quarterback more authority or not? Some days were better than others, but there was always something to fret about.....But I can’t blame Harbaugh for making the move. The offense is 16th in passing, 17th in rushing and ranked near the bottom of the league in time of possession. It was the same old story, blah, blah, blah. Barring a major reversal, Cameron probably was gone after this season anyway......

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Timing-Of-Bold-Move-Speaks-Volumes/3bbb6598-4504-4720-9a9a-2a117e221708..

 

This does smack of desperation. The main message???

Everybody's on the hot seat.

[vmax]

You guys want to read somethign really interesting read this topic over on the Orioles Hangout:

 

http://forum.orioles...ced-by-Caldwell

 

 

Thanks cleetz!

 

The talk about the team mutiny meeting being about Cam and his play calling is interesting. Also the Ozzie told Joe's agent this is his last year...and Rice being upset.

Some or all of that may be true. If so...congrats to Harbaugh for listening to his players, stepping up and making the change.

[oldno82]

Cam had to go but it sure would have been better in last year's off-season rather than now...I think. Would've given time to install a new offense (that would actually include slants, routes over the middle, and WR screens that work).

 

Still, a move like this sure shakes things up and a shakeup was needed.

 

Maybe NOW they'll play McKinnie at LT, move Oher back to RT, make Osemele the RG and put Williams in at LG. Still not ideal but better I think than the way its set up now.

 

Joe must like this but now the heat is really on him to produce---no more excuses. If he wants a new contract here that pays him top money he has to perform like a top QB and not just have 'potential'.

[oldno82]

One more thing: Cam has always shown an inability to adapt to the other teams defense during the game.

 

Finally, does anybody notice that in DC they set up the offense to take into account RGIII strengths. I don't like Shannahan but what his OC has done with the Redskins this year is pretty special.

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Finally, does anybody notice that in DC they set up the offense to take into account RGIII strengths. I don't like Shannahan but what his OC has done with the Redskins this year is pretty special.

 

 

It's also getting him killed. Probably be ok if they only needed him for a year.

[oldno82]

Hey Max the point is you adjust your offensive philosophy to to match the personnel you have not the other way around that Cam did it.

[OutsideRzAcE]

If we are going to commit to Joe the next five or six years we need to know if he is the problem or if Cam is the problem. Firing Cam is the only way to find out for sure what type of QB Joe is.

 

I was thinking the same thing. It would explain the suddenness of the move.

[vmax]

I like the team mutiny meeting theory.Maybe something will leak out about that over the next few days.

[OutsideRzAcE]

I like the team mutiny meeting theory.Maybe something will leak out about that over the next few days.

 

That would make me feel a lot better about the team vs just rebelling against Harbs. BTW Who is that Miller192 guy and how does he have so much inside info?

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Thanks cleetz!

 

The talk about the team mutiny meeting being about Cam and his play calling is interesting. Also the Ozzie told Joe's agent this is his last year...and Rice being upset.

Some or all of that may be true. If so...congrats to Harbaugh for listening to his players, stepping up and making the change.

 

So another near mutiny about a month after the last one. Sure John has everything under control.

[OutsideRzAcE]

 

So another near mutiny about a month after the last one. Sure John has everything under control.

 

Not another mutiny. They are saying the original mutiny was not about playing in pads but rather about they team's distaste for Cam

[papasmurfbell]

OK. I just was not going to read all those pages of posts. So the players were pissed about Cam a month ago and John settled it down. Am I getting it right now?

[thundercleetz]

 

That would make me feel a lot better about the team vs just rebelling against Harbs. BTW Who is that Miller192 guy and how does he have so much inside info?

 

He has been posting on that board for years now. He has reported a lot of news before it has happened. His sources are legit.

[cravnravn]

Cam is a prophet as to what we seen today..

 

 

Joe hope you can live on 27.50 an hour, caus thats all you are worth, if that

Edited December 17, 2012 by cravnravn