dc. Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Anything more annoying than listening to a crew glorify a play that was called back and ultimately later deemed illegal in many ways? Not that I can think. How often do they do a second half follow up on a play that technically didn't happen, was not controversial, and did not involve a score? Even as the official was calling it back they were oohing and aahing over the genius of Manziel and Shanahan... It was a gimmick. 1 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 The officiating crew didn't know it was illegal. Now is West had not shifted and the play stood. That would have been a beautiful controversy for the NFL right now. 1 Quote
Robjr83 Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 It involved Johnny Football so they're going to slobber over it. Quote
Robjr83 Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 Antonio Freeman said it best..yeah I've seen that play before on my kids Peewee team Quote
vmax Posted September 21, 2014 Posted September 21, 2014 That broadcast crew sucked. What was missed was Smiths late hit out of bounds on Manzel. Quote
dc. Posted September 21, 2014 Author Posted September 21, 2014 I saw the got but didn't think much of it as Manziel seemed to be engaging there too, not letting go. Good no call in my mind. Quote
Spen Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 The officiating crew didn't know it was illegal. Now is West had not shifted and the play stood. That would have been a beautiful controversy for the NFL right now.That's the scary part. Quote
Tornado700 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 That's the scary part.I think the refs got faked out just like the Ravens did. This play was so outrageous, I'm shocked a professional football team on any level would even try it. This was not a trick play, it was out and out cheating. Shame on the Browns. Quote
Robjr83 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I remember Beleicheat using a similar play... I think Welker ran to the sidelines than out for a pass ....I think it was a fake FG. Quote
dc. Posted September 22, 2014 Author Posted September 22, 2014 Not much different in my mind from Peyton Manning's old pretend to call a time out and talk to the official while a direct snap goes to the rb. All just cheap if not officially illegal. Quote
oldno82 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Actually, it's an old play I believe originally called 'the sleeper play' and goes back at least to the '50s. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I think the refs got faked out just like the Ravens did. This play was so outrageous, I'm shocked a professional football team on any level would even try it. This was not a trick play, it was out and out cheating. Shame on the Browns.How should the Browns feel shame when th eofficials didn't know it was illegal? If they don't know I would not think a coach knows. Quote
TBird Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 ILMAO - I haven't seen that play since sand lot ball in jr hi school. It worked for us and won the game. All of us would be LOL if Ravens did it and it worked. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I thinnk some people who are condemning would be thinking Kubs is the smartest guy on the planet. Quote
Tornado700 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 How should the Browns feel shame when th eofficials didn't know it was illegal? If they don't know I would not think a coach knows.I never said the refs did not know if it was legal. I said the refs got faked out. Big difference. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Absolutely the refs should know the rules of the game. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Absolutely the refs should know the rules of the game.what about the coach calling the play? Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 The refs should know the rules better than the coach. The coach is there to get the players in a place to win. The refs are there to know the rules and keep the game fair. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 The refs should know the rules better than the coach. The coach is there to get the players in a place to win. The refs are there to know the rules and keep the game fair.If you don't know what the rule of the game is you don't belong being a coach, anywhere Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I will bet I can go through the rule book and find a rule that Harbs has no idea of. If you believe Harbs knows every rule then you are nuts. Quote
ravinmaniac52 Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I will bet I can go through the rule book and find a rule that Harbs has no idea of. If you believe Harbs knows every rule then you are nuts.I bet you John wouldn't run a play that he didnt know the rule for Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Sure he would. He would think that something was legal but it turns out it wasn't. I bet 99.9% of football watchers didn't know you had to have your shoulders perpendicular to the LOS. Quote
cravnravn Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Sure he would. He would think that something was legal but it turns out it wasn't. I bet 99.9% of football watchers didn't know you had to have your shoulders perpendicular to the LOS.That and I thought you had to be in the field of play by 10 yards when the ball was snapped Edited September 22, 2014 by cravnravn Quote
papasmurfbell Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Apparently it is 5. that is what Carey said. Quote
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