RavenMad Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Alshon Jeffery is a free agent this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trestman make a strong push for us to sign him. I think I would be happy going into the season with Jeffery, Aiken, SSS and hopefully a healthy Perriman. That would allow us to concentrate on a pass rusher and the secondary in the draft. Quote
GrubberRaven Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Alshon Jeffery is a free agent this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see Trestman make a strong push for us to sign him. I think I would be happy going into the season with Jeffery, Aiken, SSS and hopefully a healthy Perriman. That would allow us to concentrate on a pass rusher and the secondary in the draft. Jeffrey has injury issues. Missed 6 games this year. Quote
TBird Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Maybe he's healthy now. I'll look it up but like the scenario if he is healthy. Quote
TBird Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Ok, here's draft tek's power board for rankings. Hargraves is higher than Ramsey @ #2 while Ramsey is # 10 and got a -1. Top pass rushers are Robinson from Alabama so you know Ozz will like him. and Nkemdiche of Ole Miss, Bullard of Florida and Ogbah of OK State. They're all DTs except Robinson who is a DE but the best down pass rushers. I've seen Nkemdiche going high on mocks. Jags will take either Hargraves, Ramsey or one of these guys, whomever theylike the best. Point is, there will be enough pass rushers for Ravens to take. http://drafttek.com/ Quote
thundercleetz Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Treadwell is still my choice is Ramsey if taken. TDs win games, and Treadwell gets lots of them and we have a QB to throw him the ball. A defensive lineman and/or pass rusher can only do so much. Look at JJ Watt in Houston. As good as Watt is, look at the impact Hopkins has had on games with a terrible QB. If Houston ever gets a good QB, Hopkins will be unstoppable. The Ravens need a #1 receiver like Treadwell. Treadwell's skill set is also the perfect compliment to Perriman. Quote
TBird Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Exactly and I stated that above. Treadwell would be the BPA @ #6 and for thereasons you stated. I just listed the pass rushers that will be there us in case Ramsey, Hargraves dnTreadwell are gone. We're in great position to get an impact player to get us back in the playoffs. Quote
OneManCypher Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 My first wish list was Ramsey(cb) in the first and Noah Spence 3-4 OLB in the 2nd, Spence has really moved up the board with his senior bowl showing , he is now rated as the 2nd best pass rusher, so i have to adjust my wish list. Spence in the first and Cyrus Jones(cb) in the second. Jones is great in run support and really good returner and press covers well and he's getting better from year to year , he's also from Baltimore. Check out his film, Jones is a tough rugged corner.I would be very happy if these were our first two picks Quote
vmax Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 My first wish list was Ramsey(cb) in the first and Noah Spence 3-4 OLB in the 2nd, Spence has really moved up the board with his senior bowl showing , he is now rated as the 2nd best pass rusher, so i have to adjust my wish list. Spence in the first and Cyrus Jones(cb) in the second. Jones is great in run support and really good returner and press covers well and he's getting better from year to year , he's also from Baltimore. Check out his film, Jones is a tough rugged corner.I would be very happy if these were our first two picks Good choices.Haven't made my mind up yet as far as trading back to get more picks in the 1st and 2nd round. Quote
TBird Posted February 14, 2016 Author Posted February 14, 2016 Spence has indeed rose to 2d best pass rusher since the SR BOWL but he was dismissedfrom college with serious personality concerns but Norris' mock has him going to Jags.If true, that will leave Ramsey to us and possibly Hargreaves to choice from. Bisciotti will have the final say on this one if he's worried. I love the sound of Jones in the 2d round which would allow us to take Treadwell,Ramsey or Hargreaves or Spence. Here's his scouting report. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/132912/noah-spence Quote
thundercleetz Posted February 14, 2016 Posted February 14, 2016 Spence is going to kill it at the combine. Quote
TBird Posted February 15, 2016 Author Posted February 15, 2016 We're going to have to wait for that because nfldraftblitz.com still has him in the 2d roundand this link was posted on 6 FEb and he was at the bottom of the list with 5 guysbetter than him. This is a very valuable site to use as a tool. It still has Hargreaves and Ramsey as the best 2 CBs, same as Kiper and McShay andTreadwell as the best WR and Bosa as the best pass rusher and Tunsil and Stanleythe best LTs. No mention of Spencer rising just yet. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/nfl-draft-value-board-26/ Quote
TBird Posted February 15, 2016 Author Posted February 15, 2016 Well, their mock sucks. Note all the teams that trade in front of Ravens to get their guy. It has Ravensdrafting OT Taylor Decker and not Ronnie Stanley. He's gone.It has the Ravens leaving Hargreaves, Treadwell and even Bosa on the board. I'd be pissed, very pissed. If Stanley and Tunsil are drafted Oz would probably wait to the middle rounds for LT if KO leavesbut there's no way he takes Taylor over the above but this is just some phantom guy going byneeds and doesn't know how Ozzie drafts - the BPA. http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/2016-mock-draft/ This guy sounds like a project to me because he needs so much improvement in a lot of areassuch as bending lower while run blocking but he has great size, NFL arm length and strength. He's the leader of their o-line but only some teams have him even projected in the first round, certainly not in the top 6. IfKO leaves and Tunsil and Stanley are gone Oz could trade down to get this guy but I wouldn't leave Bosaand Treadwell on the board. http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/131426/taylor-decker Quote
tsylvester Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 My first wish list was Ramsey(cb) in the first and Noah Spence 3-4 OLB in the 2nd, Spence has really moved up the board with his senior bowl showing , he is now rated as the 2nd best pass rusher, so i have to adjust my wish list. Spence in the first and Cyrus Jones(cb) in the second. Jones is great in run support and really good returner and press covers well and he's getting better from year to year , he's also from Baltimore. Check out his film, Jones is a tough rugged corner.I would be very happy if these were our first two picks Another Bama bust..... Jones is always out of position, relying on his speed, in college, his athleticism, in college, to over take lesser talent. No way should the Ravens take him in the 2nd, I would let him be some one elses boom or bust. Quote
OneManCypher Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Jones didn't start playing corner until his Sophmore year and he's improved every year, and he's a playmaker when he gets the ball in his hands, some have him as the 5th ranked CB so i'm assuming the 4 in front of him will be gone by the time we pick in the second. And i think he has a higher ceiling than the corners ranked ahead of him because he started playing the position late. You say he'd be a bust, i think in the long run he's going to be a steal. Quote
TBird Posted February 15, 2016 Author Posted February 15, 2016 Great post. thanks. I found this on the Ravens site. Looks like Noah Spence could rise up the boards to the Ravens6th spot after he tore them up at the SR Bowl. But they will have to investigate his drug background but they did it with Jimmy Smith who hasturned out well. Noah Spence’s Stock Skyrocketing All The Way To No. 6?The Senior Bowl did wonders for outside linebacker Noah Spence’s draft outlook.Heading into the event, draft analysts projected Spence to the second round despite showing top-15 talent. Off-the-field concerns stemming from failed drug tests that led to a Big-10 ban are what pushed him so far down the board.But a dominant performance in Mobile, Ala., and a cleaned-up drug history over the last year quickly put Spence back in first-round consideration.Now, one draft analyst sees Spence moving all the way up to the Ravens at No. 6.“A post on the Ravens’ website last week speculated that Spence could fall into Round 2.Forget it,” wrote Sports Illustrated’s Chris Burke, who has the Ravens selecting Spence in his latest mock draft at No. 6.“But Baltimore could grab the edge-rushing dynamo here. Spence starred during Senior Bowl week, consistently beating tackles around the bend. Teams will have to dig into his character, but the talent is there to justify a top-10 spot.”Expect the Ravens, along with 31 other teams, to do their homework on Spence to see if he really has turned things around and is worth investing major draft assets.The Ravens took a first-round chance on another player with “character concerns” in 2009 with cornerback Jimmy Smith. Of course, that was the 27th-overall pick, but that decision turned out well. Smith was rewarded last season with a second contract, which is tough to get in Baltimore.“If the Ravens are convinced that is behind [spence] — and they have a pretty good track record of sifting through such personal histories — then there’s a lot of upside here. Even better for their purposes, he’ll have something to prove,” wrote The Baltimore Sun’s Jon Meoli.“The Ravens are so diverse with how they use outside linebackers that he can likely fit in anywhere, if they’re convinced of his quality and makeup.” Quote
thundercleetz Posted February 18, 2016 Posted February 18, 2016 Mel Kiper in his latest mock draft has Bosa going #6 to the Ravens. That would be by far best case scenario for the Ravens. Might be unrealistic, but if two QB go within the top five then we will get a very good player. Quote
TBird Posted February 18, 2016 Author Posted February 18, 2016 Kiper had Ravens drafting LT Stanley only if KO leaves. Guess Bosa is it if KO stays. Jones is gonna draft Treadwell. He wants a weapon for Romeo then go for the QBin next year's draft. Goff and the other QB should go in the top 3. Tunsil should go in the top 3 also, if notthe top 4. I've even seen Tunsil and the other LT-Stanley in the top 3 and Tunsil as the #1pick in the draft. So it's possible that these players will be gone by Ravens turn. 1. QB2. Tunsil3. QB4. Treadwell5. Ramsey or Bosa to Jags.6. Bosa, Ramsey or Noah Spence to Ravens If Jags draft Ramsey as many speculate, Ravens get pick of Bosa or Spence. If not,Ravens get Ramsey or Spence to choose from or Stanley if KO leaves. Not a bad scenario with 3 impactplayers to choose from plus some other good pass rushers still on the board. They said Bosa is not a good fit for 3-4 defense but many say he can play on the edge as OLBwith his speed and power and DT and DE on the line with his quick first step but he's not anotherwhite hope of JJ Watt. He doesn't have JJs size or power or speed. In those scenarios Bosa will be a very real possibility depending on what the Jags do. Quote
cravnravn Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 This is why I hate this time of the year, 2 weeks ago it was Bosa as the lock 1st pick if the draft, now wait til after the combine. Quote
oldno82 Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 This is why I hate this time of the year, 2 weeks ago it was Bosa as the lock 1st pick if the draft, now wait til after the combine. It's all about blowing smoke until about a week or two before the draft. Quote
TBird Posted February 20, 2016 Author Posted February 20, 2016 Exactly guys but all the boards are doing this. One board as the way to early draft thread talkingabout who will be there and who everyone wants. People are getting their info together. Nothing is serious until after the FA signings which start in a short whil thru March and the Combineswhere everyone's numbers and times become NFL official. That's when names will fall and rise. Rightnow things are ranked according to their SR Bowl performances like Noah Spence who tore themup and has risen from a 2d rounder to 1st to maybe top 10 pick. That's a new name that was posted this past week so we have another impact player to choosefrom. It's all about getting info and having a little for for draft geeks like us. I don't watch much collegefootball so I have to do a lot of homework to find out. Links like NFLDRAFTBLITZ.COM is one good tool as is Walterfootball. Quote
TBird Posted February 20, 2016 Author Posted February 20, 2016 Here's a new name I haven't heard that Kiper has going to SD @ #3 - DeForest Buckner. I haven't seen this anywhere near the top 5, middle 1st round but not top 5. Kiper said he gradesout the same as Bosa who also fits anywhere. I'd take Bosa but let SD take Buckner so we have a better shot at Bosa. With Tunsil, Wentz, QB, Buckner, Treadwell gone and Jags taking Ramsey, that leave Bosa to Ravensplus Hargreaves, Spence and Stanley. Quote
TBird Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 Last year Kiper's final mock had us taking Carl Davis whom we got in the 3rd afterdrafting Perriman in 1st round and Maxx in 2d round. Oz said he originally had Davis in first round but he dropped. DeCosta said he was shocked to see him still on the board in the 3rd round. Great value pick there who hadsome great moments as a rookie. Maxx gained more yardage than any rookie TE in history and will be a Heap-likestar once he bulks up and develops. HARBs said people bounced off of him thisyear, not the other way around. He's excited. Only bust of course was Perriman but hopefully he returns strong this year to go withAiken. Quote
TBird Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 Here's that name Buckner again for Ravens d-line over Bosa. This time by Jamison Hensley. Hargreaves is the No. 4 prospect in Todd McShay's player rankings. The other option is Oregon defensive end DeForest Buckner. He can be a dominant force on the defensive line and has the motor that the Ravens like. But, if Hargreaves and Buckner have close to the same grade, the Ravens will go with the bigger position of need. Quote
TBird Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 Hargreaves won't come close to grading out as even as Buckner if Kiper has him going #3.McShay might like him but I've seen him going way down in the first with comments thathe'll get bumped and pushed around in NFL something McShay doesn't consider. Quote
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