Bernard Pollard cut

[thesteelhurtin]

Where is anyone getting the idea they will move Webb? Absolutely no way they move a highly-paid CB to a position where you can usually find cheap values like SS. Zero chance of happening.

. Well that's why the steelers let Woodson walk they wanted him to play safety and he wanted to play still play corner. Now Woodson and Webb are two completely different animals.

[cravnravn]

rumor is Pollard led a "near-mutiny" along with Ed Reed against Haurbaugh during the tail end of the season. Supposedly that is why the Ravens are getting rid of him. Makes your SB victory even more impressive.

 

Yeah good point, heres more on the mutiny:

 

 

A string of surprising moves in Baltimore extended on Wednesday to a player who supposedly was safe.

Safety Bernard Pollard is out, and everyone is wondering why.

As one league source said in response to the news, “Three teams in how many years. Soon four. What does that tell you?”

Another source says that Pollard has a reputation for being outspoken, for complaining, and for drawing too much attention to himself. He wears on a team, with his talent keeping him around for a second year or third year.

More specifically, we’re now getting the clear impression that last year’s incident that, as reported by Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports, was “practically a mutiny,” has contributed to the departure of Pollard — and could result in more players being purged.

And he’s where it gets really interesting. (Or at least less uninteresting.) Silver specifically mentioned Pollard and Ed Reed as instigators of the mutiny.

Coincidentally, we’re now getting indications that the Ravens don’t want Reed back.

So while coach John Harbaugh handled a difficult situation very well at the time (as evidenced by the team’s Super Bowl trophy), it looks like Harbaugh may have decided that, at the appropriate time, he’ll make sure it doesn’t happen again.

[vmax]

Pollard can't cover. He can knock players out...get personal fouls.

I don't have all the facts on the cap savings. This might not be a move caused by the cap. It might be a move to get better safety coverage and speed back there.

[oldno82]

1) Crazy ass move!

2) They now have hardly any D.

3) They gave away their best middle of the field receiver in Boldin.

4) 6-10 is way too optimistic for next year.

5) Crav is right: by the time they replace all of this talent, Joe will be in high cap years of his contract. Is the plan to let him walk at that point? Or will they trade him for a 6th round draft choice???

[OutsideRzAcE]

Yeah good point, heres more on the mutiny:

 

I am 100% convinced it's due to the near Mutiny. Pollard's coverage skills weren't as bad as we were lead to believe when he first got here. There were a couple of games where he was the best player on defense. Ed Reed had no chance to return in light of them jettisoning Pollard. This is sad. I don't like the direction Ozzie is taking this team.

[dapetes]

What was this so called mutiny about. Harbaughs a suck up just watch him around Biscotti its pathetic. Harbaugh probably doesn't understand why all people don't suck up. And if you don't suck up he calls it a mutiny.

[colincac]

I had heard nothing of this 'mutiny' so this is all very interesting to me. If it is true that Reed and Pollard lead it than you can expect both will be gone. Crazy that we won a Super Bowl in the face of it. What I don't get is what caused the players to be upset? Both of those guys are starters..

[papasmurfbell]

This will get really expensive for Steve to push out all that will not kneel and service Harbs. I wonder how this subservient expectation of players is going to play with them over time.

[cravnravn]

Quit speculating Pops, we dont even know what it was about..

 

How about the D was pissed off caus the FO just fired Cam in the middle of a playoff run?

Edited March 14, 2013 by cravnravn

[papasmurfbell]

Why would they be pissed off? I would think they would be really happy to see him go.

[cravnravn]

Again its all speculation on what the revolt was about

[colincac]

I read that Reed and Pollard were upset about a late-season practice in full pads. Can't find the page anymore. But really, such a tiny thing.

[OutsideRzAcE]

Well...here is the most in-depth explanation I can find about why Pollard was cut.

 

 

With the good, though, came a lot of bad. Pollard was a troublesome figure in the clubhouse, which is why he won’t be around in Baltimore next season.

“This wasn’t all about quality of play,” a source said on Wednesday after the news about Pollard’s termination went public. ”It was about locker room tranquility and chemistry.”

While there wasn’t one single incident that doomed Pollard, a series of friction-filled events contributed to the club finally saying “enough is enough”. The most notable of those was a post-game blow-up in Washington where the hard-hitting safety openly bashed linebacker Josh Bynes in front of the entire team and within earshot of several media members who were in the vicinity of the locker room setting up for post-game interviews.

“It was completely uncalled for,” said a 2012 teammate. ”From a team standpoint, the last thing we needed that day was to have one guy pitting himself against someone else. And to pick on Josh like that? It was wrong.”

Pollard’s role in the bye-week practice fiasco is well known by now. When Harbaugh suggested the team practice in pads on Wednesday before letting the team have off for the rest of the week, Pollard reacted angrily and rallied several teammates to demand a lighter, easier practice session. To his credit, Harbaugh took the high road and gave in, deciding, apparently, that the battle wasn’t worth winning when the season was still very much in the balance.

“He was always complaining about something,” the teammate remembered. ”Nothing was ever right in Bernard’s eyes. After a while it got kind of old. And a lot of guys in the locker are John Harbaugh fans. Bernard was very anti-John and open about it. He didn’t really hide it.”

http://wnst.net/baltimore-ravens/pollard/

[OutsideRzAcE]

I'd heard about the post houston practice "mutiny" but not about the Josh Bynes incident. The playoff game story about Pollard leveling someone and drawing a flag after Harbaugh specifically cautioned against penalties is intriguing. This particular former teammate saw it as open defiance.

 

I feel a lot better about the Ravens cutting Pollard after reading this article. I didn't like the Boldin trade, but at least I understood why they did it. Cutting Pollard made no sense to me - why get rid of a guy who was the epitome of Play like a Raven because of 1 incident? Now we find out this guy was an incessant problem in the locker room. They did the right thing.

[papasmurfbell]

We know how Harbs feels about people who question him. He told a listener on WBAL what he thought of him.

[colincac]

I'd heard about the post houston practice "mutiny" but not about the Josh Bynes incident. The playoff game story about Pollard leveling someone and drawing a flag after Harbaugh specifically cautioned against penalties is intriguing. This particular former teammate saw it as open defiance.

 

I feel a lot better about the Ravens cutting Pollard after reading this article. I didn't like the Boldin trade, but at least I understood why they did it. Cutting Pollard made no sense to me - why get rid of a guy who was the epitome of Play like a Raven because of 1 incident? Now we find out this guy was an incessant problem in the locker room. They did the right thing.

The problem to me is if the guy is THAT big of locker room problem you usually would have heard more about it. When he is that solid of a player and you only gain $1 Million by cutting him I don't think he was big enough of a diva to make that worth it. We will see I guess.

[colincac]

Tom Zbikowski just got the ax from Indy following their LaRon Landry signing. I'd like bringing him back. Nice safety depth at both spots who will probably come for about $1 Million.

[papasmurfbell]

Zibby wouldn't be a bad idea.

[papasmurfbell]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/ed-reed-other-ravens-finding-out-its-a-business/

 

 

“I think, as an organization, they kind of want things on their terms,” Reed said. “Seeing how things have transpired over there right now, it’s like wow, I just can’t believe how things are happening from a business standpoint when guys give you blood sweat and tears and give you everything. And try to do the best for the team. Players definitely did that.

 

HAHAHAHA. Ed the players fought to have the right to go where they want for what ever money they can get. That said now Owners don't have to show you loyalty. Get over it.

[oldno82]

Lets get Zibby!

 

And now I do feel better about the Pollard cut. You can't have a guy be that obnoxious on the team and apparently from the article thats how several team members saw him.

 

So goodbye, Bernard!

 

One columnist said he's hard to handle and wears out his welcome and thats why he's been on 3 teams so far and he is only 28.

I don't think we should bring Ed back either at this point if Houston is indeed offering him $6 million---they're crazy!

[OutsideRzAcE]

The problem to me is if the guy is THAT big of locker room problem you usually would have heard more about it. When he is that solid of a player and you only gain $1 Million by cutting him I don't think he was big enough of a diva to make that worth it. We will see I guess.

 

To me it appears Harbaugh was intent on not making this a big issue during the season so that the team wouldn't turn into the Jets. We didn't even hear about it until about a month after it happened, but if you believe the descriptions of that event, it was pretty bad.

 

Practicing in pads did not go over well with some of Baltimore's other veterans, including safeties Ed Reed and Bernard Pollard, and several of them openly challenged Harbaugh's edict. Rather than squashing the mini-uprising, the coach welcomed the dialogue and solicited additional criticism. Soon, the meeting turned surreal, as the subject shifted to Harbaugh's treatment of his players and perceived mood swings.

"It was practically a mutiny," one Ravens player recalled. "It came very close to getting out of control

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--john-harbaugh-kept-ravens-on-track-despite--mutiny--at-practice-in-october--164505133.html

 

If you ever heard Pollard's radio show it's hard not to come away impressed with the guy. He comes off very professional, well spoken and intelligent. That said, when you combine the fact that the Ravens got rid of him in out-of-character fashion basically eating more $$ than they saved, and that Pollard can't seem to stay on a roster for more than a year or two despite his talents, I think it's pretty clear he is a bigger locker room issue than he appears to be to outside eyes.

[cravnravn]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/ed-reed-other-ravens-finding-out-its-a-business/

 

HAHAHAHA. Ed the players fought to have the right to go where they want for what ever money they can get. That said now Owners don't have to show you loyalty. Get over it.

In this business there is no loyalty, and its nothing new, You can trace it back to the Unitas trade

[papasmurfbell]

The Unitas trade I think was personal. I do think Irsay did that as a way of saying this is my team. I can do as I please with it.

[cravnravn]

Namath, Bert Jones, they were all given away once upon a time

[papasmurfbell]

Namath was never really good. He had 1 game.