tsylvester

I've seen enough of all you mentioned and would take him over all of them.

They can get Baker Mayfield in the 3rd likely. He needs to mature, but he moves extremely well in the pocket, throws great on the run, is very accurate down field. Sure, he is short and a bit of a gambler, but he would have two years or so to mature and learn...not a bad "project", certainly better than a navy quarterback...

Not by me and you can't count crav, he always kids around with the record. They still "can make it", this div is up for grabs and even the Pats are not as good as many "experts" thought. But there is too much to fix; offensive line, receivers, defensive back 7, play calling, play schemes/designs and yes, Flacco.

We knew this before the season began.....

The odds and history say you are wrong about most of them.

They can't even run a screen, we ran screens in pop warner! That is not on Flacco, that is coaching of the offensive line & backs... Yet teams can run screens against this vaunted defense because they are undisciplined..

Sounds like the kiss of death.

They could have drafted better on the line & at wide out instead of thinking they are better than they are by drafting projects; none more glarring than the navy quarterback who can't catch, isn't quick nor fast....

Papa, I don't care who was behind center, you saw first hand what this line and receiving core can't do; their jobs. Two passes, on time, perfectly thrown passes bounce off their hands/ chest and turn into picks, one for a touchdown. Either one of those passes if caught, changes the game. If dropped, no big deal except for the one that went for six points = likely a win. Add to that Camp dropping a pass that would have atleast gone for a first down, at best, a big play. Now, go look at the all 22 recirdings and you will see the route combinations how childish and simple they are,, not helping create an opening. Joe doesn't have time to get to his second read, let a lone a third. You will also see receivers running routes in the same area, leaving plenty of defenders ready to pounce on the catch. The Bears played a defense with high safeties to prvent the deep passes, yes Joe missed on one, though the draft bust was slow getting to his top speed for what ever reason, maybe a sidden breeze blew.... I have agreed that Joe was not playing great, but even if he were, it would make no difference with this crap. This is a coaching issue, a feont office issue, not just on a certain player sucking, no matter how much he makes.

Maybe they should replace one of the safeties, one allowed a touchdown, the other allowed a 50 + yard run because he was trying to be a hero by stripping the ball. No need for that with them pinned so deep.. Everyone is to blame, Joe is not playing great but he isn't getting much help either. Mallet ia a giod back up, that is all. No, the problem clearly is the coaching, this is juat another game that they came out with no energy...

I wonder if Troy could beat this team.. Jeepers, just let the running back thrown the ball, the "best safety duo" in the league will "stop him"...§μ]>μГ¤θ©

The sad part Max, they would get a 6-8 yard run on first down and still have to punt... Far beit for a reciever to make a contested catch or, eee gash, get open in man to man with a single high safety.... How dare us to think the offensive line can hold a block for a 3 count.. 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi...

He has since he got here, PFF has no idea what they are talking about.

They miss him a little, but once again the biggest damage came off the edge, or even when it did come up the middle it was because of gap irresponsity. But hey, the great middle linebacker Mosely has his one play of the game, tackle for a loss.... These guys just could not get off of blocks..

The score would not indicate how badly they were beat... Too bad too, some nice plays out there by Collins, Rainey( even with the turf monster tackling him) ( and his own teammate)... And even the often injured had a real nice punt return... But thrmmmm

The entire Ravens team went swimming. How else do you explain no energy from the offense, and the inability to sustain energy by the defense? This team might not win another game. Play designs is terrible. I see better route combinations in highschool games. More delay of game penalties, can't get the play in on time. Still no discipline on the team, evem with the refs keeping their flags tucked away. Defense out of position, secondary mix ups still...

I say again, 4th best? Did you keep a close eye on Jensen? When he wasn't blocking air he was falling down tripping the runningbacks....

His receivers nor his line. 3 step drop, barely enough time to throw a 1 yard route. Five step drop, no time for receivers to get open. When he does get time, receivers drop or have the pass bounce off their hands for interceptions...

Don't just blame the owners, the players have plenty of blame, the changes in practices, the lack of attention to detail in the offseason training....

Oh, I don't watch Sunday, Monday nor Thursday night games unless the Ravens are playing, even then, just a half. Sleep is more important for me, I get up early in the mornings.

College games are more exciting, there is less drama and as you said, the NFL games are terriblely played. Those are the reasons I watch less NFL games than I used to, add to the fact that for a simple cable contract with no special packages, I can choose from up to 8 different games on at each time of college compared to just 2 (pending ravens , redskins games) for the NFL.

http://www.espn.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/92673/brandon-williams-hints-wyatt-earp-style-that-hell-return-soon

Are these guys; 1)drunk 2)ignorant of talent 3)idiots ripping people off Are they serious? I know the line play league wide has not been good for a variety of reasons. Even if the Ravens are the 4th best among the worst, is that reason to cheer? Jensen among the best centers? I guess they missed all the blocks Jensen whiffed on, the number of times he pulled and just blocked air or fell on his face. I am sorry, I know some of you guys & gals like PFF, but this ranking shows they are not very knowledgeable on this game. I ask them the same question I always do; do they watch every play of every player in every game, or do they just go off of game stats? https://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2017/10/11/16457556/pff-ravens-offensive-line-ranks-fourth-best-nfl-offense-blocking-top-centers-2017-ryan-jensen

For all his power while lifting weights, he rarely shows it on the field. Sure, he is shifty and fast, great hands & vision, but let some other team take him top 10, have him for 3-5 years if he stays healthy..... Nope, plenty of other backs and plenty of other needs. Give me Calvin Ridley any day...

Me either, the way the cards are playing I am surprised they made the trade. Now that have two washed up players in their back field ans no offensive line to block for them. Granted it was just a 6th but still..