Money Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 5 years / $32mil Very fair contract. Everyone should be happy with this. Hopefully they get Smith done before FA starts as well. They will tag Monroe to keep other teams from talking to him and will then work out a nice deal with him as well. Quote
Robjr83 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 5 years / $32mil Very fair contract. Everyone should be happy with this. Hopefully they get Smith done before FA starts as well. They will tag Monroe to keep other teams from talking to him and will then work out a nice deal with him as well. If years of forum surfing has taught me is that "everyone being happy" is an impossibility. Only if a player takes the vet minimum and plays Pro-Bowl caliber is it even close. Quote
Money Posted February 28, 2014 Author Posted February 28, 2014 If years of forum surfing has taught me is that "everyone being happy" is an impossibility. Only if a player takes the vet minimum and plays Pro-Bowl caliber is it even close. That's why I said "should". 1 Quote
colincac Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I'm personally a little hesitant to be excited about a five year $32 million deal for a guy who was only back half the year... but I also think there's a good chance he outperforms it so overall I'll take it! Quote
papasmurfbell Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I'm personally a little hesitant to be excited about a five year $32 million deal for a guy who was only back half the year... but I also think there's a good chance he outperforms it so overall I'll take it!I agree with your assment. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I get Monroe done before Smith. Quote
vmax Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 I like it.He's proven himself and the Ravens need a chain mover and redzone threat. I think he has 4 good years left in the tank.It helps this years draft too because the Ravens need O line help, a playmaking receiver, a runner, LB, safety, CB...they need some pieces. Quote
Money Posted February 28, 2014 Author Posted February 28, 2014 I get Monroe done before Smith. I wouldn't. It would help if they get Smith done before FA begins. They have time with Monroe after he's tagged. Quote
oldno82 Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Nicely done with Pitta. Worth the money. Monroe may have to be tagged. There aren't any better LTs out there in FA and we're not drafting high enough to get one of the known studs. Hopefully, we can pick up a RT. Quote
RavenousBG Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 LOL Cravn! I'm cool with the deal. It's for Joe really and he didn't break the bank with the cap going up so much over the next few years. This opens the door to keep Monroe. Quote
cravnravn Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 LOL Cravn!I'm cool with the deal. It's for Joe really and he didn't break the bank with the cap going up so much over the next few years. This opens the door to keep Monroe.My only hesitation is the injury, it's the same injury that ruined Bo Jackson. And yes I'm fully aware he played well when he returned. I'm just Leary opening the wallet without seeing him go a full year. 1 Quote
tsylvester Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 so they did pay him as a slot receiver. another win for the agents..... 1 Quote
Money Posted March 1, 2014 Author Posted March 1, 2014 so they did pay him as a slot receiver. another win for the agents..... I'm not sure where you are getting this. He's the 9th highest paid TE in the league. He'll be 10th if/when Graham gets his deal. He won't even be in the top 15 highest paid TEs in two years. As far as percentage of time TEs are targeted while on the field...he's 3rd behind Gronk and Graham. It's a very fair deal for both sides. 2 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 I wouldn't. It would help if they get Smith done before FA begins. They have time with Monroe after he's tagged. It will artificially increase his salary. Nicely done with Pitta. Worth the money. Monroe may have to be tagged. There aren't any better LTs out there in FA and we're not drafting high enough to get one of the known studs. Hopefully, we can pick up a RT.OK. He isn't in the top 5 of his positions. So you can't inflate him to that level. It would be like I want a coke but the place only has 1 left. I am not paying $50 for it. I will go down the street where it is at regular prices. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/28/franchise-tag-numbers-for-2014-are-set/ Franchise tag numbers for 2014 are setOffensive line: $11.654 million.There is no way he is worth that. I would not go over $9 mil. Quote
RavenMad Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/28/franchise-tag-numbers-for-2014-are-set/ There is no way he is worth that. I would not go over $9 mil.You might tag him to keep him off the market and be able to negotiate exclusively with him. The other side is you could tag him, try to work out a deal and then trade him if nothing comes up especially if we end up with a top LT from the draft. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah but the tag increases the income of the recipient. Quote
Money Posted March 1, 2014 Author Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah but the tag increases the income of the recipient. What are you talking about? The tag figure only comes into play if a deal isn't worked out. Monroe wants to avoid having to play under the tag just as much as the Ravens want to avoid it. What the tag will ensure is that no other team (like the Dolphins) mucks up negotiations by putting a ridiculous offer out there. With the tag in place, they would need to give the Ravens two 1st round draft picks if the Ravens didn't match their offer. 1 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah you usually tag guys who are in the top 5 of their position not guys who are around 12. Quote
Money Posted March 1, 2014 Author Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah you usually tag guys who are in the top 5 of their position not guys who are around 12. Here are the players tagged in 2012. How many would you consider "top 5" at their position? Arizona Cardinals: Calais Campbell, defensive endAtlanta Falcons: Brent Grimes, cornerbackBaltimore Ravens: Ray Rice, running backChicago Bears: Matt Forte, running backCincinnati Bengals: Mike Nugent, kickerCleveland Browns: Phil Dawson, kickerDallas Cowboys: Anthony Spencer, linebackerDenver Broncos: Matt Prater, kickerDetroit Lions: Cliff Avril, defensive endIndianapolis Colts: Robert Mathis, defensive endJacksonville Jaguars: Josh Scobee, kickerKansas City Chiefs: Dwayne Bowe, wide receiverNew England Patriots: Wes Welker, wide receiverNew Orleans Saints: Drew Brees, quarterbackNew York Giants: Steve Weatherford, punterOakland Raiders: Tyvon Branch, safetyPhiladelphia Eagles: DeSean Jackson, wide receiverSan Francisco 49ers: Dashon Goldson, safetyTampa Bay Buccaneers: Connor Barth, kickerTennessee Titans: Michael Griffin, safetyWashington Redskins: Fred Davis, tight end How about 2013? Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd - $6.916 millionChicago Bears defensive tackle Henry Melton - $8.45 millionCincinnati Bengals defensive end Michael Johnson - $11.175 millionDallas Cowboys linebacker/defensive end Anthony Spencer - $10.627 million (120 percent his 2012 tender)Denver Broncos offensive tackle Ryan Clady - $9.828 millionIndianapolis Colts punter Pat McAfee - $2.977 millionKansas City Chiefs offensive tackle Branden Albert - $9.828 millionMiami Dolphins defensive tackle Randy Starks - $8.45 million Quote
oldno82 Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) I'm completely with Money on this. Tagging him keeps him away from a bidding war and off free agency. It denies him a secure contract so there is still leverage on both sides to keep negotiating for something more reasonable and longer. As usual, John Eisenberg hits the nail(s) on the head: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Wondering-If-Dennis-Pitta-Overpaid-Dont-Think-So/b33a31a2-6180-432d-8765-c5bc346b5177 Edited March 1, 2014 by oldno82 Quote
papasmurfbell Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 I agree with Vinnie on these matters. If you are not up there then it only inflates your contract. Quote
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