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I hope so. We'll see how he does against the Bengals defense next week. If he comes through, we won't have to worry about drafting a qb this year and that frees us up to concentrate on guys who can start right away.

Didn't know Ward couldn't play for the first year. Maybe we'll succeed with Perriman the same way.

You've got to be a super-fan to go to or watch this game.

The point is, talent can be found anywhere in the draft regardless of where a team drafts. And total duds can be found in the early rounds and often are. Sock used to say the draft was a crap-shoot and boy was he right.

Antonio Brown was a sixth round pick by the Steelers, 195th overall. That's the kind of drafting skill we need.

Ugly. Really ugly. I hope they burned them.

Here's what's being said. :http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000604812/article/ravens-steve-smith-sr-eyes-return-for-2016-season Don't know if I believe it.

Doctson just might be available when we draft in the 2nd round. He sounds impressive from what I've read about him and would give us the WR we need if we decide on Ramsey for round 1.

With his body he doesn't belong on ST. I agree that he should be used as an offensive weapon only.

Well this puts things in a somewhat different light: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ryan-mallett-gets-no-guaranteed-money-20151217-story.html

Good find, Cleetz!

I didn't say 'great' weapons. I said 'decent' ones.

The point is that without decent weapons, no quarterback will look great.

Exactly!

What a waste of resources: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ryan-mallett-will-sign-deal-today-20151215-story.html

I don't think even the Great Tom Brady could do much with this offense now.

Interesting point. But I hope Mallet is plan d not plan b.

We need to draft a QB sometime to groom Joe's replacement for a few years. Now what round that is is up to people smarter than me. Perhaps we skip QB this year and begin shoring up the other weak spots and go for the QB in 2017. Either way it's time to start thinking about life after Joe. I'm hoping that Joe sees the light and reduces that cap number big time. I'm hoping, but wary of his agent.

If Shaub is the problem, start Clausen and use Renner as the backup. Sheesh! The damned season is over anyway, wtf are we trying to salvage?

So should we be looking to draft a QB to learn for a season or two behind Joe? And if so what round? We've got so many needs.

Great suggestions! The NFL needs to get off its collective ass adopt those options.

That's how I see it. I think Maxx is younger by a year than the rest of the group too.

Yup, there's no good choices. I'm sure Harbs will start Schaub. I would start either Claussen or Renner. Is Renner still on the practice squad? I lean towards Renner just to give the kid a chance to see what he can do. Then there's been some talk about bringing in Ryan Fitzpatrick. Sheeesh!

Yup. Forsett makes the list.

Alright. I keep hearing about building around a core of players so I thought I'd take a shot at listing who I think is the core: Marshal Yanda Rick Wagner (?) Buck Allen Terrence West (?) Joe Flacco (?) Crockett Gilmore Maxx Williams Nick Boyle The defensive line CJ Mosley (?) Jimmy Smith Will Hill And I'm sure I missed others but that's my first crack at it. Anybody else have a list of our core players? Oh and I'm assuming Steve Smith retires as does Daryl Smith.