papasmurfbell Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 Onion Sports Network @OnionSports 9mRoger Goodell To NFL Players: 'Murdering Your Wife Will Result In Automatic 4-Game Suspension' http://onion.com/1o053Zq Quote
tsylvester Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 he sure was !! and we all know damn well there is video of them in the elevator, it has already been reported there is.true I heard she was going off on ray rice butt god damn is was just a month ago there was a girl who went off on JAY-Z in the elevator and he did nothing all on video RAY RICE KNOCKED THE WOMAN OUT . look at the video of ray " helping" dragging her , kicking her in the leg, great help! Actually, if the reports are accurate, he hit her back, she lost her footing and hit the back of her head on the arm rail in the elevator, causing her to lose conscousness.... So whille he did hit her, and I defend him not on that issue, her being nocked out was accidental, if true. Since the comish only gave him two games and I am sure he saw the full video, I am guessing the reports are accurate. Quote
vmax Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 The court had evidence. They didn't think it was worth a hanging.Goodell had it....he felt the same way. Maybe it was a "bad mistake in a drunken moment" and both parties are to blame. I really don't know. Just guess work and speculation. Based on Goodell's judgement and the courts, I can only read into it that whatever happened was not cool but not that horrible. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 The court had evidence. They didn't think it was worth a hanging.Goodell had it....he felt the same way. Maybe it was a "bad mistake in a drunken moment" and both parties are to blame. I really don't know. Just guess work and speculation. Based on Goodell's judgement and the courts, I can only read into it that whatever happened was not cool but not that horrible.Goodell went light because he is eventually going to have to do something to Isray and if he hmered down on Rice he would have to do the same thing to Isray or be faced with the media going insane with double standards talk. He already let Haslem walk after a 92 million dollar judgement was hamded down due to him defrauding customers. Quote
rastaman831226 Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 If TMZ had the video, we'd have seen it. Authorities saw it but that doesn't mean it didn't warrant a conviction, only that a plea and 1st offense program were agreed to be sufficient...................... did not warrant an attempt to get a conviction. Quote
rastaman831226 Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 The court had evidence. They didn't think it was worth a hanging.Goodell had it....he felt the same way. Maybe it was a "bad mistake in a drunken moment" and both parties are to blame. I really don't know. Just guess work and speculation. Based on Goodell's judgement and the courts, I can only read into it that whatever happened was not cool but not that horrible.I lean toward this conclusion. Quote
cravnravn Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Goodell went light because he is eventually going to have to do something to Isray and if he hmered down on Rice he would have to do the same thing to Isray or be faced with the media going insane with double standards talk. He already let Haslem walk after a 92 million dollar judgement was hamded down due to him defrauding customers. You will be surprised on how light he goes on Irsay, Irsay has to appear before a grand jury to testify in a divorce hearing.And if you think the other 31 owners are not puckered up because that group has secrets, and if those secrets get out, oh boy this could get worse then Sterling, Quote
papasmurfbell Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Someone already did and it wasn't enough to warrant a conviction. ..................... did not warrant an attempt to get a conviction.Most first simple assault cases would be handled the same way. Rice admitted he hit her to the cops. That would have been admissible in court and with the video and that admission he would have been convicted. Quote
papasmurfbell Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/26/report-impassioned-plea-from-rices-wife-influenced-goodell/ Report: “Impassioned plea” from Rice’s wife influenced GoodellNo one knows what the wife of Ray Rice said to the Commissioner when she accompanied the Ravens running back to New York for his personal-conduct policy session. Whatever it was, it apparently helped Rice get a lesser penalty than most believe he deserved.According to Jonathan Lehman of the New York Post, Janay Palmer Rice made an “impassioned plea” to Commissioner Roger Goodell. Her words, whatever they were, reportedly were “instrumental” in the decision to suspend Ray only two games.What she said isn’t known, and possibly will never be known (unless they have another press conference with no questions from the press). Peter King of TheMMQB.com has reported that Mrs. Rice “urged” Goodell to “not ruin Rice’s image and career” with the punishment. She also presumably apologized for her role in the incident that culminated in Rice knocking her out, given that she expressed that same sentiment during that press-conference-without-questions-from-the-press.It’s all meaningless without seeing the video of the incident. While troubling footage of Rice dragging his fiancée-turned-wife out of an elevator quickly emerged after the February incident, the video of the punch has been zealously concealed. Our marginally-educated speculation is that the video shows aggression by Janay that could make the likes of Stephen A. Smith sympathize with the ultimate knockout blow, but that the video nevertheless is far more disturbing than what we’ve already seen, given that it ultimately shows Rice delivering an uppercut to a female and rendering her unconscious. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/26/report-impassioned-plea-from-rices-wife-influenced-goodell/ no shit she did that is money lost if he isn't playing. Quote
cravnravn Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Until there is proof of a left hook on the woman that made her head bounce of the elevator wall, I believe the 2 game suspension was nothing but a save face move by the NFL. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Until there is proof of a left hook on the woman that made her head bounce of the elevator wall, I believe the 2 game suspension was nothing but a save face move by the NFL.so let me get this straight you believe he didnt hit her even though he said he did yet you believe two chicks who's stories just dont add up and Ben was arrested on either and wasn't even brought in for questioning. Wow the purple shades are dark with this one. Quote
cravnravn Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 so let me get this straight you believe he didnt hit her even though he said he did yet you believe two chicks who's stories just dont add up and Ben was arrested on either and wasn't even brought in for questioning. Wow the purple shades are dark with this one. No Steel you dont get it, We all know there is footage of what happened in the elevator...For Ray to only get a 2 game suspension means to me that the footage wasnt that damaging, in fact I dont believe anything happened. Like I said if there was footage of Ray landing a punch hard enough to knock someone out, regardless of female or male, he would have received a stiffer suspension. As far as what Ben did, proof is in the pudding, he held an underage at bey in a mens room while the door was guarded..Lets not forget it wasnt the Oafs first accusation, it was his second in a span of a few months Quote
oldcrow Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 underage ? fukin liar i'll bet ray rice does it again 1 Quote
oldcrow Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 what chick in Carolina? u mean Georgia? 16 is the age of consent in Ga Quote
cravnravn Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 And how old you have to be to be in a BAR/???? shit I couldnt buy a 6 pak of beer after midnight in Georgia on a Sat night Quote
oldcrow Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 21 or 18 with a bracelet or whatevs they do but what's your point? drinking age or DTF age? Quote
cravnravn Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 If she wasnt at the bar, then maybe the Oaf would have kept his wanger in his pants Quote
papasmurfbell Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 so let me get this straight you believe he didnt hit her even though he said he did yet you believe two chicks who's stories just dont add up and Ben was arrested on either and wasn't even brought in for questioning. Wow the purple shades are dark with this one.You are debating the guy who wantingly ignores obvious comparisons all the time to fit a desired predetermined outcome. Quote
oldcrow Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 and debating a man who when he could bitch slap and rape his wife if he desired because the law and catholic belief was for A WOMAN TO LOVE AND SERVE HER HUSBAND I don't hold it against you cravn it's aCIVIL DISCUSSION NOT AN ARGUEMENT maybe it's a little below the beltbutt heyit's still involves sexuallity if I said you had a nice body would you hold it against me? Quote
varaven45 Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Man, the Ray Rice case has become a real "tar baby" across the news, media, talk shows, etc.The ramifications and implications are farther reaching than I think anyone, including Roger Goodell, might have anticipated. As an objective Raven fan, I am becoming increasingly concerned over the matter and the distraction leading into a new season. This is not good karma for a team that whiffed last year and is seeking player leadership, character and chemistry for this season. Quote
thesteelhurtin Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 like i said, show the elevator footageLike Mike Green just said Pryor got 5 games for selling his stuff in college. He should have gotten 6 but like I said earlier this all comes down to Goodell can now go easy on Isray. Quote
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